Re: Another comment rejected by UCRM moderators!
- From: Clive George <clive@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:07:24 +0000
On 08/03/2010 16:44, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:29:37 +0000 (UTC), Ian Smith
<ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010, Tom Crispin<> wrote:On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:49:40 +0000 (UTC), Ian Smith
<ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Which is presumably why I didn't say that, or anything remotely
resembling that. How about addressing what I have said rather than
making up nonsense I didn't say and then criticising me for nonsense
you've made up?
Perhaps, then, you would be good enough to explain why you started
discussing unhelmeted people who crashed but didn't hurt their head.
OK. You said "No one in this group, as far as I know, had claimed
that wearing a helmet has increased the severity of any injury they have
personally suffered."
I then pointed out that the last time I was knocked off my bike (and
the only time I've been carted from traffic 'accident' to hospital in
an ambulance) I was not wearing a helmet. I suffered no head
injuries. Therefore, the only possible different outcome had I been
wearing a helmet would be that it would have increased the severity of
my injuries.
And I said you were a fool.
I didn't think that I would have to justify my remark, but clearly I
do.
See if you can spot the flaw in this argument.
Today I cycled to work. Inadvertently I cycled over some glass, but my
tyre was undamaged. Fortunately I was not wearing pink underpants; the
only possible different outcome had I been wearing pink underpants
would be that it would have increased the severity of the dmage to my
tyre.
Can you spot the flaw? If you can, go back and look at your argument
again and see if it now looks foolish.
If you can't see the flaw in my argument, there's little hope.
Can you provide a mechanism for the pink underpants causing problems? We can for Ian's helmet crash. If you can't for your shreddies analogy, it demonstrates it's not a good analogy at all, and you need to come up with a better one.
Remember I've got personal experience of incidents where a helmet did make things worse and where a helmet would have made things worse had I been wearing one.
(I've also got experience where a helmet made things better, but I don't think anybody's arguing that such events are impossible).
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