Re: More discrimination against cyclists.

On 16 Apr, 18:42, Marc <initial.surn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 16 Apr, 17:45, Marc <initial.surn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
francis wrote:
On 16 Apr, 07:43, Doug <jag...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 15 Apr, 19:33, thaksin <notha...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 14 Apr, 14:39, James <james.an...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 14, 10:32 pm, JNugent <J...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I thought cyclists were all considerably richer than the average bear?
Whether or not they are, the majority of people who buy bicycles (as
distinct from using them) probably aren't. I'm sure most purchases can
easily be indefinitely postponed...it's not like a car or new TV that
we all *need* in order to live.
All? Hardly. Why would anyone need a TV to live? Plenty of car junkies
though who must have their regular driving fix.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that there are more bikes than
cars in the UK. Children also own them. I alone have five and would
You have FIVE? Hang on, you can only use one at a time. That sounds
incredibly 'wasteful' of the planets resources, which you seem to spend
a hell of a lot of time whining about. There are four cyclists out there
  somewhere who could easily be accommodated by using your surplus
bikes, but they now have to buy _new_ bikes and thus contribute to the
greenhouse gases used in their manufacture.
Three of the bikes were scrapped and I have brought them into reuse.
Of the remaining two, one is suitable for long distances and the other
is a folder for taking on public transport where other bikes are
banned, such as on the DLR and during rush hours.
glady upgrade them if I enjoyed the same public handouts and other
privileges as motorists, provided that my old cycles were re-cycled of
course. One of them is more than 50 years old and still going strong
with virtually no maintenance, other than pumping up the tyres and
very occasional brake block and tyre renewals.
It gets _worse_! You have a fifty year old bike? Well, given the
droolings in URC about various new rims, hubs, gears, and whatnots, I
can only assume that cycle efficiency has risen dramatically over the
years.
Yes but apparently reliability has not.
This would mean that, by using an older less efficient machine
instead of a newer one, you are deliberately wasting more of the planet
resources in the form of the foodstuffs you use to generate the energy
required to propel it! You planet-murderer, you!
But what about the healthy exercise from propelling a heavier bike?
Compared to the amount of food needed to keep me sustained and well,
the amount needed to cycle is tiny, unless very, very long distances
are covered. You can go more than 50 miles from just a Mars Bar.
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Not that I am disbelieving you, but could you show us your
calculations?
This should be worth watching! I wonder of Dugh knows any more about
biology/Mathematics than he does about chemistry and environmental science?

OK lets get real then, Muck. More realistically,

Realistic, do you understand the meaning of the word?
  say the cyclist does

20 miles per day 5 days per week. During the week he will consume
17850 calories from food but only expend 3048 calories on cycling,

For where do you get your magic figure of 3048? further along in the
thread somone suggests between 500-1000 calories and hour. That would
mean between 2500 and 5000  calorie.

From the figures previously given.

Allowing an Av of 20mph would mean 5 hrs cycling, using the two figures
plus the mean, and your plucked from the air figure, we get....

Wher did you pluck 100 miles from then?

500     2500    14.00560224     %

750     3750    21.00840336     %

609.6   3048    17.07563025     %

1000    5000    28.01120448     %

Average of above                20.02521008     %

  so

So even with your grossly exaggerated figures it is still only 20%
then, as opposed to 17%? Big deal!

will only use 17% of his food on cycling. Only a small amount of the
total food intake as I previously suggested.

The word you used was "tiny" as in, "Compared to the amount of food
needed to keep me sustained and well,the amount needed to cycle is tiny"

Do you now class one  fifth of anything to be tiny?

It seems you are no better at maths than you are at any other subject,
what were your qualifications to talk about green issues?

I see you routinely use personal abuse in a futile attempt to hide
your own shortcomings. Regardless of your reliance on semantics though
it should be obvious that a typical cyclist only needs a small amount
of extra food to complete their daily journeys, So the question of
wasted food doesn't really arise.

Now check how many calories there are in a litre of petrol which might
get you 10 miles if you are lucky, and which needs to be imported,
processed and distributed. Clue: 34.2 MJ/litre.

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