Re: Cycle shed position.

On Wed, 11 Mar, burtthebike <burtthebike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Phil W Lee" <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote in message
news:u78gr4debk50p58o0808nq0c9p03aa3ktq@xxxxxxxxxx

It seems that the best solution all round would be for the Elfin
lot to hold their safe teas just west of the bike sheds.

A fine solution, but after the tea party, how would you tell them
from the chimps? Wait! Of course, it's simple! They'd be the
ones with thick gloves to prevent scalding from hot tea.


You realise, of course, that your jolly jesting is the real problem.

Have you ever told a woman she is a widow? Do you think it's fun?

Have you ever dealt with a work colleague who is now crippled for life
and will never work again - never provide for his family, never play
football with his son, never nip upstairs when his daughter cries out
in her bed?

That's all a jolly laughing matter for you, is it? Good excuse for
suggesting the murder of people who actually have to deal with these
sorts of events?

Less dramatically - do you not think it reasonable that efforts be
made to segregate heavy fast machinery from people? In most
industries that's accepted practice - it's only for highway traffic
that we seem to think mixing tonnes of steel moving at high speeds
with unprotected people is a good idea.

But back to the topic - the VAST majority of the stupid things
attributed to 'elfin safety' either never happened (banning step
ladders to change a light bulb, for example) or were not the actions
of health and safety professionals (banning conkers, for example).

What perpetuates this sort of thing is bloody idiots like you two
telling and re-telling the stories. Laughing over attempts to provide
you with a safe working environment. Blindly criticising those that
are charged with responsibility for getting sensible precautions
through the thick skulls of the imbeciles who simply think it will
never happen to them.

I don't want to spoil your fun. I don't want to make your life
difficult. I do want to go home knowing that you are alive and well,
despite the dumb things you do. _I_ want to see my children at the
end of this working day. I don't think it's funny to laugh at people
that take on a responsibility for trying to ensure that you do too.

If you find an unreasonable health and safety diktat, I would
encourage you to challenge it. Yes, ask for the assessment, ask for
the justification. Please propose a better alternative, that keeps
more people safe more easily. If you can make H&S better, then for
goodness sake (and mine, and your workmate's, and your's) do it. But
this infantile sniping at those that carry a measure of liability when
things go wrong - when you get caught out taking your shortcut, or
cutting the corner, or bypassing the process - literally sickens me.

Grow up.

Ian Smith

Director with particular responsibility for safety in a firm working
in construction - an industry that kills and maims an unreasonable
number of people each year - and a member of APS, and a member of
IOSH, and sit on an industry advisory committee for safety, and
do various hazardous works (rail, confined spaces entry), and
responsible for sending people into potential harms way on a daily
basis, and REVOLTED by your malevolent cackling about people that are
trying to ensure that your loved ones get you back from work intact
today, tomorrow and even the day after that.


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