Re: Share the road - IoAM

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:27:57 +0100, Marc
<initial.surname@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

judith wrote:



Yes, I agree Advanced Motoring Tests are not needed for all motorists.

You're too quick to agree with something you don't understand.

What exactly do you think I do not understand. Your very
convoluted/speculative English? Care to explain.



There are some appalling motorists - and then there are appalling
cyclists. Both groups could do with more education.

I would favour some sort of compulsory education/training for cyclists
- but no test


Compulsion without test, you haven't thought this one through have you?


errr. I think it is you who has not thought it through.

"Right then johhny, you have to do this test, it's compulsory!"

'What happens if I don't?'

" Errrr nothing, but you have to , it's compulsory!"

' If nothing happens to me if I don't, then I won't '

" Ok I will just mark it down as if you had done it , but you don't have
to , will that be OK?!

Compulsory education and training does not have to culminate in a
test. Whatever made you think it would?

The system that insists that "education and training" have to be recorded.

Or did you misread the
sentence somehow?

I will leave the above in so that people can see where you've gone
wrong - but I will try and explain it a bit better. (Sorry - many
of the words have more than one syllable)

I said : I would favour some sort of compulsory education/training for
cyclists - but no test.

Now this should not be too hard for you;

You can have compulsory education and training - but there does not
need to be a test at the end of it in order to ascertain that you have
reached a certain level of understanding. Your attendance on the
course could be recorded.

You do not sit a test/exam.

Now is that so hard for you to understand.

The fact that you have attended the course has been recorded - you
could receive a certificate of attendance.

You do not have to take any test.

(Hopefully you can perhaps follow that now You were just trying to
appear stupid in order to catch the sympathy vote; well you succeeded
- but I don't know if you get the sympathy vote;-)


Only today, I read a post from a wally:

"Some parts of this island are sufficiently civilised for
cycling on paths not to be an issue. In the town where I live, cycling
on footpaths is positively encouraged"

I totally disagree with these sort of statements
Disagree that they exist, or disagree with the opinions or facts within
them

Sorry - forgot English was not your strong point.

(When someone says that they disagree with something it usually means
that they disagree with the views expressed)

When it comes to "usual" use of English, past evidence shows that you
are willing to twist and turn to get a word to mean whatever you want it to.

OK - but now I've used simple English for you - I think that you've
followed it?

Cycling on footpaths is an issue - where ever it is carried out (I
think that cycling on the footpath is an offence under the Highway Act
1835 - unless part of it has been designated as shared use (Cycle
Tracks Act 1984) - but then of course it would be clearly marked as
such as you have said)


I would be interested in the name of any town where anyone believes
that cycling on footpaths is positively encouraged. Do you know of
anywhere?

Where did your example hail from? You manage to supply your own
evidence to disprove your point, very helpful of you.

What evidence I supplied disproves what point?

You really do need to make yourself clearer. (Have you thought of
taking an English Language course; I believe that you could take one
without having to take a test of competency at the end of it. A bit
like mandatory training for cyclists with no test at the end of it)



--
you can either promote cycling or promote helmets,the two are
incompatible.
I encourage my children to wear helmets. Some evidence shows that
helmeted cyclists are more likely to hit their heads; other evidence
suggests that helmets are largely ineffective against the rotational
forces implicated in the worst brain injuries.
(Guy 'Liar' Chapman)

Sorry - you asked about the "example":
It was posted by a knob-head in a different cycle forum - I'll have
another look for it and report back
.

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