Re: Emma Foa's death- verdict announced

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:31:00 +0100, Sara Kirk wrote:

In article <5_mdnTjYEZs5iZjaRVnysAA@xxxxxxxxx>,
JNugent <not.telling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sara Kirk wrote:

JNugent <not.telling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

That is the only way in which
the "criticism" of the driver for looking at papers whilst stopped...

The report indicated that he was still looking at papers whilst moving.

That is terrible if true (even if his looking at papers whilst turning
left at a junction somehow seems counter-intuitive), but it isn't what
was said in the reports I've seen. The impression I had was that the
driver was looking at papers whilst stationary.

Actually, with that addition, it becomes easier to understand how he
pleaded guilty to DWDCAA. Of course, he still couldn't have seen
through the steel body of the cab even if he had not looked at any
papers - and this type of collision is far too common for the reading
of papers whilst turning left to be the cause of them all, as I'm sure
you'll agree.

I think it was appalling that anyone turns without looking where they're
going - let alone anywhere eles. I'm not sure why you keep trying to
excuse the driver.

The guy drove off and turned a corner without looking. Someone died.

And surely, as the driver should know that he cannot "see through steel" as
TrollN puts it, he should *not* have taken his eyes away from the scanning
of his exterior. If he is driving a vehicle which has such poor vision, he
must take extra care; to fail to do so is negligence by definition.
.

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