Re: Press release from Crown Prosecution Service

On 30 Jul 2005 15:28:40 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:44:19 GMT, Steven <stevenj3371@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:57:43 +0100, David Hansen
>>
>> >I suggest some reading on the subject. The books are recommended
>> >here from time to time, but "Risk" and "Death on the Streets" are a
>> >good starting point. Come back when you have brushed up on the
>> >subject.
>>
>> I suggest you buy yourself a dictionary and look up a few of the words.
>
>I have. The OED. It disagrees with you, and I've posted the quote.

Where?

>Now, what dictionary are you using

The complete OED.

>Come on. Post a quote from a recognised dictionary, with references,
>that supports your view of what the word means.

OK.

>From the complete OED:

|1. ? a. An occurrence, incident, event. Obs.
|b. Anything that happens without foresight or expectation;
| an unusual event, which proceeds from some unknown cause, or is an unusual effect of a known cause;
| a casualty, a contingency. the chapter of accidents: the unforeseen course of events.
|c. esp. An unfortunate event, a disaster, a mishap.

Now, (a) Obviously applies, but is obsolete.

and unless you think the killing of the child was fortunate, then (c) clearly
applies.

For (b), it states "Anything that happens without foresight or expectation".

Note that it does *not* say "Anything that could *reasonably* be forseen or
expected"

so unless you can show that these bastids actualy *did* forsee or *did* expect
the incident, then your case collapses.

In any event, it is only necessary for one of the alternate definitions to hold,
and (c) certainly does, so I belive that has shown quite comprehensively that
the complete OED, the recognised authority on English usage clearly allows the
use of 'accident' for the incident under discussion.

>> Come back when you can avoid making a complete pratt of yourself.
>
>Tried your own prescription lately?

I did actually check the complete OED before posting.

I suggest that when you say you've posted a quote, you actually do so, otherwise
it will be *you* who looks the complete pratt.

.

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