Re: Oh dear.

Just to stick another spanner in the works:

Racially speaking, the only people on the island of Great Britain who aren't
"British" are the English! Scotland comprises Picts and Scots (confusingly
from Ireland), both being native British races. Wales comprises the Welsh
(and some Scots in the south) again, native British races, the Irish are
native, whilst the English arrived on these islands in the mid fifth
century, after the Romans had packed up, from Northern Germany and Southern
Denmark. It was at this same time that the Scots arrived in Pictland (now
Scotland) from Ireland.

Patrick

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"PC" <PCameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian" <Ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
>
> Patrick :-)
>
> > No slight concerning `ignorance'. Didn't know id you were stirring the
> > Scotland / England pot.
>
> Not trying to stir anything; simply asking for clarification so I don't
make
> the mistake in the future.
>
> > While it may not be apparent to some parts of the world, there has been
a
> > fair bit of enmity between England and Scotland throughout history. We
> > occupy a certain `together apart' relationship. Geographically, Scotland
> > is the country occupying the northern part of the island called Great
> > Britain. England and Wales occupies the southern part of the island
(about
> > 5/8ths of the whole island). Population wise England and Wales have
about
> > 50m inhabitants while in Scotland there is only approx 6m (probably why
> > there is much more `noise' generated about England than there is about
> > Scotland). It's really that simple.
> >
>
> How come no one famous ever comes from Wales? :-)
>
> I have always been aware that Scotland and England are different countries
> with different cultures. I just was not aware that the term British
refers
> to Scottish and English people. I simply had never heard a Scotsman
> identify himself or be identified as British.
>
> > If you ever visited Glasgow, went into a pub there and announced how
much
> > you loved `being here in England', you wouldn't live long enough to
finish
> > your drink. ;-)
> >
>
> I never would have done that. I have never confused a Scotsman as being
> English. I simply would have been confused if a Scotsman identified
himself
> as British. I have never thought that Scotish and English are the same
> thing. I just didn't realize that British refers to Scots.
>
> > While I appreciate that you wouldn't expect me to name all of the states
> > in the USA, you would (as the name implies) expect me to know that the
USA
> > was made up of a number of states, and (perhaps) that Minnesota, South
> > Carolina, GHorgia were examples of same. You would however think on me
as
> > being somewhat ignorant if I called everyone in the USA `Californians'.
> > No?
> >
>
> I was perfectly aware, as the name United Kingdom implies, that there is
> more than one country on the island. It is just the term British that I
was
> confused on. From what I understand on this thread you, in fact, do refer
> to everyone from the island as British.
>
> > The `United Kingdom' is made up of two kingdoms. England is one of the
> > two kingdoms involved. Scotland is the other kingdom, and it produced
its
> > own coinage up to the Union of the Crowns under Queen Anne. Thereafter
> > there was no such thing as legal tender `English money' or legal tender
> > `Scottish money'. Only `British', which of course was legal tender the
> > length and breadth of `Great Britain.
> >
> > I can confuse things a bit for you though :-):
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fife
> >
> > Ian
>
>



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