Re: Airbags - only last 10 years ?

David Taylor wrote:
> Huw <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote on Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:28:12
> -0000:
>> David Taylor wrote:
>>> Huw <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote on Sat, 31 Dec 2005
>>> 13:25:06 -0000:
>>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Umm, absolutely. I rather think you're missing the point of TVR...
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. If the point is to have an overly powerful car
>>>> that corners tail-out on ordianary public roads during ordinary
>>>> journies then I do not see the point. If however a TVR driver
>>>> wished to do so when he judged it safe to do so then he could
>>>> switch it off if it was so fitted, then yes, I would see the point
>>>> [of the off switch]. However I suspect that the real reason is
>>>> indeed the cost. Not the cost of the hardware but the cost of
>>>> setting up the control alogarithms for such low volume cars.
>>>> Whatever the reason is, you can probably tell that I don't agree
>>>> with it and would not buy one when there is plenty of choice out
>>>> there that are not based on stone-age technology and safety
>>>> systems.
>>>
>>> Choice is good. You don't have to buy one, but the fact that it
>>> exists for those who want it is, IMO, a good thing.
>>
>> It deserves to be consigned to the dustbin of history if it cannot
>> compete on equal terms in safety matters. I can only think of one
>> volume model that is of a different and inferior era in safety terms
>> and still in production. That is the Land Rover Defender. Even that
>> can have abs and traction control these days though, but it is not
>> safe enough to be sold in America and it shouldn't be considered to
>> be good enough for us this side of the Pond. Unless we are inferior
>> and less deserving of safer vehicles?
>
> It's nothing to do with what we "deserve", it's what people _want_.

Nobody actually wants a Land Rover that is less safe than it should be. It
is the default choice if one has to buy British and needs the off road
performance and especially the towing capacity. No one is likely not to buy
a modern one because it is too safe.






> If someone would rather buy a car without ABS they can buy a TVR.

Again, no one would have grounds to avoid a TVR if it had ABS and I doubt
anyone would. These are just excuses for inadequate and antiquated products
and such arguements have been used and discredited throughout motoring
history by both manufacturers and gullible consumers alike. I am old enough
to remember the same bull*** used against fitting or using seatbelts and
even against collapsible steering columns for goodness' sake, let alone
crash helmets for bikes.


> You can buy a Nissan Micra with 30ft of foam padding and an electronic
> limiter set at 4mph if you want, and someone decides to make it.

Well actually you can't.



>
> Trying to say "america doesn't allow it, why do we" doesn't really
> work, either. If you want to live in America, go.

Irrelevant and mistaken.


There's plenty
> other things our laws disagree on -- like guns.

Indeed.

Huw


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