Re: So, how many of us are gonna get clobbered by this road tax escalator?




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I drive a Toyota Landcruiser Amazon 4.2td so I guess my road tax will now
be £210. This car cost me a tad over £44000 last year so £40 a year more
expensive big deal. This is just another scam to hit motorists yet again.

Keith

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No, only £195. The £210 bracket is only for new cars registered from
today.

i'm kind of glad i've just uprated the weight of my motorhome, as it's now
over 3.5 tons it's a private HGV, and as such there's only one tax band,
£165 a year, saving myself a fiver on last years rates, and a fair bit more
on what it would have gone upto had it stayed as a plg under 3.5 tons,


Aha! that's category my Merc is in, so we aren't getting clobbered at
all... just yet.

Of course i will get clobbered when i go to switzerland in a few weeks time,
as i can't use the vignette sticker, over 3.5 tons and you pay tolls on the
mileage driven, but at least it's not as expensive as going to austria and
having to use the go-box system, and i can't do 150 on the german autobahns
no more,

but for the time im in england at least the tax will be a bit cheaper for
me, untill they close the phgv tax bracket down as everyone orders a new
motorhome with a 4 ton weight.

if i lived a bit closer to dover i'd register the van in france, and spend
half the time over there, afaik they dont pay road tax anymore, it's all
gone on fuel, which is why french fuel is more expensive than their
neigbouring countries, but that seems a fairer system, drive a large vehicle
that uses more fuel, then you pay the extra for that in the fuel bills which
the road tax comes out of,

seems to make sense to put it on the fuel, thereby taxing people on
their actual contribution to greenhouse gasses.
.. As I said, you don't jump into a big converted camper to nip down the
shops, pick up the kids and i'd certainly need your head examined if
you routinely headed into the city on errands or whatever.
I'm happy to use the bike and public transport since I live in a city
where plenty of this is laid on.

On top of that, I would point out that there are probably millions
MORE of us in places like london who would use their bikes a lot more
IF WE HAD SOME DECENT CYCLE LANES.
I'd be happy pay a lot more fuel tax if I knew that even 10% of it
could be spent on a decent c-lane system, like they have in Holland. In
Holland, bikes get a completely separated lane in nearly all big urban
roads (at least, that's what I saw in Utrecht), separated by a curb
from the cars, regulated by lights just like all the other lanes.
Why are we SO SLOW to do the obvious in the UK?
The camper, for me, is about getting the hell out of here from
time to time - and even when I'm out, I tend to stay put and use my
FEET and my BIKE. That's the whole idea.

.



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