Re: The Times: East Coast Line rail franchise on brink of failure

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Roland Perry <roland@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In message <911bca5950%rail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, at 14:40:12 on Mon, 11
May 2009, rail <rail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> remarked:

I'd ban automatic shop doors,

So sod the disabled then...

They won't be helped by being under water [tm]

At least if the doors open they can swim for it.

It's also possible to have people open the doors for a disabled person
when asked.

So they've got to hang around waiting for someone not themselves
disabled/with loads of shopping/three kids/etc to come along. And tha
person can't get near the door for all the disabled/with loads of
shopping/three kids/etc blocking up the exit and causing a fore hazard.

I've never seen this happening.

Of course not, the automatic doors let people out so such queues don't build
up.


This is proven by only half of shops having automatic doors, what we
need to do is reduce that percentage, not increase it.

Where do you get the statistics for the number of shops with automatic
doors?

Looking at my local high street there is only two shops with automatic
doors but they are the supermarkets where, it is arguable, there is the
greatest requirement.

In my local High St it includes all the Banks and Building Societies (a
huge oversupply of)

Why do you believe you are oversupplied with banks and building societies?

and Boots, as well as the two supermarkets (Iceland
and CoOp).

and those fan heaters above them.

You've got to have heating in the shop somewhere

Shops are usually over-heated.

Your opinion, see the factory's act and similar.

The required temperatures are quite low compared to current practice -
but you introduce an interesting concept. Also make it illegal to
operate any heating in a building where the temperature exceeds the
Factory's Act amount by more than (say) 2 degrees centigrade. (The Act
specifies 16 Celcius, btw, 61 Farenheit).

I haven't introduced any concepts.


and, properly designed they are supposed the direct the hot air inward
not outward.

But they clearly aren't well enough designed much of the time.

clearly? You've done measurements?

I've felt the hot air blowing in my face while still outside the
building.

Much of the time?


Then target lighting with time switches plus motion detectors (we've
done most of what we can with low-energy lighting).

So sod security then...

I don't accept that security inside buildings is unduly compromised by
switching lights off when rooms/corridors are unoccupied. And remember,
this is for domestic premises too.

Moton detectors actually aid energy saving, the time switches stop them
activating the lights in daylight.

Time switches can also switch off lights after a set time (my University
had such press-activated switches widely deployed).

Which rather demolishes your arguement...


Then have a plan to switch off every other streetlight after 10pm.

And similarly safety.

Only half the lights.

That assumes that the lighting is adequate in the first and ignores the fact
that switching alternate lights off creates pools of light and shadow which
can be very dangerous for motorists as the human eye doesn't react fast
enough to cope with the rate of change.

So switch them off entirely then!

Are you aware of the relative accident statistics for lit and unlit roads?


You'd save more

You'd save additionally, not "more than the streetlights".

In your opinion.

I seriously doubt that you can show that the amount of electricity used
for illuminated adverts exceeds the amount of electricity used by street
lights.

I seriously doubt that you could show that the amount of electricity you
could safely save by selectively switching street lighting off excedes that
used by illuminated adverts...


and with far less negative impact turning off all advertising signage
after the same time.

Yes, that can get turned off too (although I'm struggling to picture any
illuminated advertising signage near where I live).

You don't have any shops/pubs/churches/petrol stations with external lit
signs or advertising hoardings that are lit at night?

A lot of the shops in my High Street don't have "name sign"
illumination,

Really? What about all those banks, building societies, supermarkets and
Boots?

and pubs are about one per square mile

Ah a beer desert.

in what's a heavily
built up area, and look a lot like housing (no excessive illumination).

They don't have illuminated signs?

There's just one petrol station in the town (plus ASDA). I don't recall
either of the churches illuminating anything (except maybe a
noticeboard).

Why do they need to illuminate a notice board late at night? Hoping to
convert a few drunks?

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