Re: The Times: East Coast Line rail franchise on brink of failure



In message <911bca5950%rail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, at 14:40:12 on Mon, 11 May 2009, rail <rail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> remarked:

>> I'd ban automatic shop doors,
>
>So sod the disabled then...

They won't be helped by being under water [tm]

At least if the doors open they can swim for it.

It's also possible to have people open the doors for a disabled person
when asked.

So they've got to hang around waiting for someone not themselves
disabled/with loads of shopping/three kids/etc to come along. And tha person
can't get near the door for all the disabled/with loads of shopping/three
kids/etc blocking up the exit and causing a fore hazard.

I've never seen this happening.

This is proven by only half of shops having automatic doors,
what we need to do is reduce that percentage, not increase it.

Where do you get the statistics for the number of shops with automatic doors?

Looking at my local high street there is only two shops with automatic doors
but they are the supermarkets where, it is arguable, there is the greatest
requirement.

In my local High St it includes all the Banks and Building Societies (a huge oversupply of) and Boots, as well as the two supermarkets (Iceland and CoOp).

>> and those fan heaters above them.
>
>You've got to have heating in the shop somewhere

Shops are usually over-heated.

Your opinion, see the factory's act and similar.

The required temperatures are quite low compared to current practice - but you introduce an interesting concept. Also make it illegal to operate any heating in a building where the temperature exceeds the Factory's Act amount by more than (say) 2 degrees centigrade. (The Act specifies 16 Celcius, btw, 61 Farenheit).

>and, properly designed they are supposed the direct the hot air inward
>not outward.

But they clearly aren't well enough designed much of the time.

learly? You've done measurements?

I've felt the hot air blowing in my face while still outside the building.

>> Then target lighting with time switches plus motion detectors (we've
>>done most of what we can with low-energy lighting).
>
>So sod security then...

I don't accept that security inside buildings is unduly compromised by
switching lights off when rooms/corridors are unoccupied. And remember,
this is for domestic premises too.

Moton detectors actually aid energy saving, the time switches stop them
activating the lights in daylight.

Time switches can also switch off lights after a set time (my University had such press-activated switches widely deployed).

>> Then have a plan to switch off every other streetlight after 10pm.
>
>And similarly safety.

Only half the lights.

That assumes that the lighting is adequate in the first and ignores the fact
that switching alternate lights off creates pools of light and shadow which
can be very dangerous for motorists as the human eye doesn't react fast
enough to cope with the rate of change.

So switch them off entirely then!

>You'd save more

You'd save additionally, not "more than the streetlights".

In your opinion.

I seriously doubt that you can show that the amount of electricity used for illuminated adverts exceeds the amount of electricity used by street lights.

>and with far less negative impact turning off all advertising signage
>after the same time.

Yes, that can get turned off too (although I'm struggling to picture any
illuminated advertising signage near where I live).

You don't have any shops/pubs/churches/petrol stations with external lit
signs or advertising hoardings that are lit at night?

A lot of the shops in my High Street don't have "name sign" illumination, and pubs are about one per square mile in what's a heavily built up area, and look a lot like housing (no excessive illumination). There's just one petrol station in the town (plus ASDA). I don't recall either of the churches illuminating anything (except maybe a noticeboard).
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Roland Perry
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