Re: Lille-Strasbourg TGV

In message <evj2ak$k88$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"R.C. Payne" <rcp27@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <elnp13hk6ka3it6mgacf06de3f9pleq7dt@xxxxxxx>
asdf <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 11 Apr 2007 01:35:52 -0700, The Good Doctor wrote:

Perhaps the only way for Eurostar to get to Amsterdam would be for
Eurostar to become part of Thalys. But it would have to retain its
high security, as the UK Government will never accept Schengen as
providing enough security for a nation that is at war. Even without
the war, the "island mentality" would probably never allow Schengen in
any case.
I don't see why Schengen is required for Eurostar to serve Amsterdam.
All that's needed is for the UK govt to allow passport checks for
those boarding at Amsterdam to take place on the train. This would
avoid the pretty much fatal requirement for dedicated secure station
platforms, rooms for passport control facilities, etc, at Amsterdam
(or any of the other suggested destinations).

Passport checks are not the main problem, it is the security nonsense
that would involve having a platform quarantined for at least an hour
before each departure. Centraal is far too busy to allow that. Then you
have a similar problem at Bruxelles where the secure platforms are north
facing bays, so yet another platform pair would have to be quarantined.
There's no way SNCB and NS are going to put up with that pointless
stupidity. Expansion of E* services is just not going to happen until
Britain stops its xenophobic behaviour.

I had always assumed the quarantine of the platforms was part of the
off-train passport stuff. Once you have checked the documents of the
passengers, you need somewhere secure to put them before they can get on
the train, and you need to make sure there is no insecure way onto the
train. If you do the security stuff on the train, why does the platform
have to be secure?


Because the passengers have to be frisked to make sure they are not carrying
knives or scissors with which they can hijack the train and crash it into
Canary Wharf. However if you stick them in your suitcase (but not a
back-pack) that's fine, because they go in the hold... er seems to be
something wrong with this scenario.

--
Graeme Wall
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