Re: A Luche Canon on ukra?


Steve wrote:

Spike wrote:

Note that Agent newsreader has a good Global Search facility, and it
isn't necessary to read such drivel in order to find it, or having
found it, read it. That others use inferior software, or who don't
know how to use its facilities, thus making it necessary to read each
post, is their choice.

I'm sorry but I am confused here. You say that Gareth is spamming the
group but then say that you do not read his posts because you don't need
to to know that they are spam.

You certainly don't understand. I said that Gareth's oft-repeated
posting counted as Excessive Multi-Posts, which carry the same meaning
as spam.

Can you clarify this Spike as I use Thunderbird and no spam measuring
facility exists?

Spam, and EMP, is classified by measures such as the Briedbart Index.

AFAIAA no news client measures this.

It is all explained in the parts you quoted below, which I have not
snipped as an aid to your understanding.

2. Excessive Multi Postings, EMP, is a usenet term to
describe the separate postings into multiple
NG as distinct from Excessive Cross Postings, ECP,
where one posting is made but cross-posted to multiple groups.
I have done neither.

"Excessive Multi-Posting (EMP) has the same meaning as the term "spam"
usually carries, but it is more accurate and self-explanatory. EMP
means, essentially, "too many separate copies of a substantively
identical article." "

Again, as you have confessed that you do not read his posts how can you
state that "too many separate copies of a substantively
identical article." were posted by him? Again I'm puzzled.

Please learn to read. I said that it isn't necessary to read his
drivel in order to find EMP; Agent has a Global Search facility that
finds posts by any number of criteria.

You have to admit Spike that, as I mentioned on one of these threads
before, that you have been the author of very many OT posts that do call
for higher moral standards from governments, officials, politicians and
people.

Have I? Can you post the message IDs for say six of them?

Supposition piled upon supposition is a very weak base for any form of
argument, perhaps indicating that there is nothing stronger to hand
with which to defend the indefensible.

Indeed and as you admit to not reading his posts, in my book, that also
amounts to supposition.

Learn about searching as a tool for finding information. It will stand
you in good stead in your adult life.

For those who have difficulty reading, "a defensive response" is a
massive underrepresentation of the true position of "a near-identical
defensive response repeated over forty times, amounting to
unacceptable behaviour liable to trigger sanctions". Which it did.

Yes it did. Possibly illegal sanctions that, if they were to catch on,
could well see an effective end to free speech on unmoderated newsgroups
as anyone who disliked the POV of another could issue rogue third-party
cancels and if this is not nipped in the bud now the problem will grow.

This is where your lack of experience at searching information comes
to the fore. It was the work of moments for Agent to determine that a
poster identifying himself as Gareth, etc G4 something-or-other, has
made 328 posts between 1458 07 March and 1802 11 April this year.

A few more moments shows that 88 of these were posted via the aioe
news-server, and 237 via the datemas.de news-server.

There were 37 messages counting as EMP posted through datemas.de, the
last being at 1528 06 April. No datemas.de postings have been made by
him since then.

This just might suggest that datemas.de has terminated his account.

As you are concerned about free speech and not being able to read this
chap's drivel, I suggest you turn your wrath in the direction of
Germany, as they might be censoring the content you apparently want to
read.

I'm certain that you would be the first to complain (and I would support
you) if some of your OT postings were cancelled by a third-party on
their whim.

Oh, they have, sonny, they have. I said nothing, and found a way round
it. So please don't pile supposition on supposition, but stick to
facts, if you can recognise what they are.

This is the kind of person for whom people will defend his 'right' to
be 'heard' even it it counts as EMP and attracts sanctions, or who
misrepresents his position. It makes one weep for the future.

Well Spike, I had you down as a person that cared passionately about
freedoms. Your OT posts certainly give that impression. Yet, now, I
realise that I was wrong and it appears to me that you only care about
your own opinion.

Say hello to Santa next time you see him.

You have not been charged for this valuable lesson.
--
from
Aero Spike
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