Re: Posts cancelled by Paul Cummins so far

Spike wrote:
Steve wrote:Spike wrote:



Spike wrote:

Steve wrote:


Ultimately, we need people like Gareth to keep us aware of the ongoing invasive changes to our lives, and our hobby.

No we don't.

The greatest leap forward in awareness concerning the hobby was the
publication by OFCOM of the responses to its two consultation
exercises. The subsequent revelations were that the RSGB was
completely out of touch, that Amateur Radio was alive and well, and
that all the boring repetitive postings from your hero had influenced
nothing at all.

Gareth is not my hero. He has his own point of view


As I said in a reply to Chronos, if you don't like the term I'll
withdraw it, and insert "this chap" in its place.


I made no reference to the RSGB/OFCOM consultation. I made no point about that that. If you read more carefully you will see that my intention was to state that Gareth is asking questions that deserve answers and that any sort of censorship of his views should be looked upon with disdain by all users of UKRA.


I don't think you read what I posted. The chap concerned has made many
posts on here and elsewhere that in the end have influenced very
little and changed very little in either politics or Amateur Radio. In
the context of 'speaking up' and changing things, the OFCOM
consultation was a whole new approach, and I mentioned some of its
outcomes. That was a legitimate comparison to make.
OK, do you think that your OT rants about human freedoms or the increasing lack of said freedoms has changed anything materially.


So that you do not get the wrong impression - I do not support most of Gareth's views, but I will still defend his right to post on this newsgroup to the end.


Noted. But it could be said that 42 postings of the same reply, in a
short period, is not a position that merits defending. It is possible
that a news service has recently been withdrawn from this chap, so
perhaps you could address your thoughts to them.
I have never defended his postings and agree that a lot of what he says is twaddle and spam. But I support his right to post his point of view


I have never once seen a posting than mentioned a definition of the
concept of 'freedom' that contexted it with the philosophies of
positive liberty and negative liberty. Without a context, such
sounding-off is no more informative than the approach used by a
certain beach-sitting king, or repeating the mantra that 'if you have
nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear'.
Amazingly nor have I from Gareth. What I have seen however is an obvious putting down of him by you and others that IMO have nothing to say other than critisism.



Well, that is amazing Spike coming from you. As the author of very many, if not loads, of off-topic posts concerning human rights on this NG, I thought that you would or should have supported free speech from wherever it came. Perhaps free speech is a conditional thing.


While it could be said that there is no such thing as free speech,
which would make an interesting debate in its own right, the context
to most of those postings was to illustrate to supporters of the
quotation above (that has been used on this group) that it is, well,
unsupportable in (probably) any real-life manifestation of
political-philosphical thought, thus making a reference to one
particular school irrelevant.

Yes Sir Humphrey
Steve
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