Re: Nu Labour = New Traitors


"Andy" <andrewrichardwainwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:7ec65970-b3c1-42ba-9a5e-a8e9d2f75ff0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 24 Jan, 12:43, "Lee" <m...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Andy" <andrewrichardwainwri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> On 24 Jan, 10:53, "Lee" <m...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> "Andy" <andrewrichardwainwri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

>>news:7ca80025-9d05-40b9-85d3-e6b6f7f4e012@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>> > It's true that white males have suffered in relative terms due to
>> > global economic and political conditions- but that's the word- >> > global
>> > - and I don't think any UK government has directly or deliberately
>> > contributed to this. There's not a great deal of difference between
>> > the Blair/Brown or the Thatcher/Major regimes in terms of general
>> > policy direction.

>> > British culture has suffered largely due to shit media imports as
>> > opposed to immigration. So much so that it's impossible to hold a
>> > reasonable and rational debate with the media industry's victims. As
>> > with the USA, rubbish film, music radio and TV has seriously dumbed
>> > things down. Labour's biggest failing to me was not having the balls
>> > to smash the media cartels.

>> Why would they want to when Labour can use dumbed down Proles to their
>> own
>> advantage in accepting policies like Borrow, borrow, borrow never mind
>> the
>> interest rate and to swallow BS on demand at election time, meanwhile
>> reaping seemingly better education statistics in the process.

>> The difference between a 1970's GCSE cousework book and a contempory >> one
>> is
>> almost as great as the difference between an Early Learning Centre >> shop
>> and
>> Maplins.

>> This means that as well as losing manufacturing industries to keep up >> an
>> illusion of a Wolkenkuckucksheim for supposedly middle class, white
>> collar
>> effete voters that Britain is very likely to lose it's final >> exportable
>> product, that of science and technology when the highest technological
>> aspiration of the next generation is to assemble an X box or Wii on
>> Christmas or Birthdays and send text messages in a format that can
>> sometimes
>> take a second glance to comprehend.

> Well I'm only young middle aged, but old enough to know the a 1970s
> GSCE was in fact called an O-level. I have friends and relatives in
> the education business and what is claimed to be "marxist
> brainwashing" by teachers' detractors could actually be best described
> as "modern secular Christianity" - though I do have a degree-level
> education I enjoy learning by myself best - yes even from quality TV.
> Something I would do if I were a politician is demand that TV should
> have a greater educational balance. Ironically, the BBC has been under
> the most attack in the press, while C4 has recently suffered financial
> problems- between them the two broadcasters probably produce about 90%
> of all informative and educational . Whilst I would agree that the BBC
> does have a left-wing bias, editors might regard this as "corrective",
> i.e. considering the bias of other media outlets, it is a necessary
> duty to redress balances. What happens if you are a premiership or
> championship fan who doesn't want to fund Fox News. Season tickets are
> pretty damn expensive.....

I never had too much interest in watching TV, as a young teenager I went
away to sea and never really got into the habit of sitting for hours
watching 'stuff' again, 90% of the content even these days literaly sends me
to sleep after about 30 minutes. Most of the time it is just background
noise or a music channel.

> Videogames as a true learning tool are a business opportunity that has
> yet to be exploited. I use VR / MUDS extensively as a psychology
> author, and there are some amazing things that can be learned from
> military campaign strategy to sexuality to physics to parapsychology
> and mysticism/religion/dreaming.

After a serious injury to my arm I began playing a MMORPG while
recuperating, the darn thing was so addictive that 3.5 years later I was
still building the daft character. The time demanded by the creators to
access most useful objects was immense and sometimes it did occur to me that
this was the ideal setting for a present day Pavlov or Skinner to have a
field day studying the behaviour of real human subjects.
As for dreaming I seem to remember some of the other players mentioning on
the forums that sometimes they dreamed in the role of their game character
probably after extensive and prolonged 'grinding' sessions.

Cool. My thoughts too. Very easy to fool people on VR with regards to
sex, sexuality or ethnicity (not even that difficult with todays
resynthesys technology to change the gender of your voice for live
chat) . I'm upfront on these issues should they ask- they rarely
do.... Nationality however ISN'T easy to fake. I find it almost
impossible to pretend that I'm not English- I don't think I could
manage this even as a fluent foreign language speaker!


The thing that became a bit of a problem with this particular game as it grew in scale was the onset of ageism, originally the number of adult player was at a level where being over 21 did not really matter but as the game expanded and became more commercialised in the direction of the 13-18 year old market it became a less attractive environment for adults to be.

As there were for lack of a better word plenty of beggars it was not difficult even with limited Spanish to pass as a non English speaker for short periods just to evade being followed round and asked for items or gold which could be a pain and often ended in an un-needed argument.

As for gender swapping, cybersex and all that kind of thing there was a lot went on where the game started so to speak in the areas where the 'noobs' congregated but if you were into the game for it's own sake most players left those areas in a day or so and miscreants generally were filtered out either by mods or the disapproval of more experienced players.

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