Re: Another EU triumph: Birth of the Single European Riot


"Mel Rowing" <mel.rowing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Dec 11, 10:41 pm, "Osric" <os...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How do you imagine we got the civil liberties in the first
place?

Just like all wild beasts humans were created with total freedom.

They were eroded, in as much as someone may see them as being eroded,
by the societies which humans formed. These societies could only form
because humans voluntarily gave up some of their freedoms in return
for the advantages that societies bestow.

Since those who live in today's societies were not in any way involved
in the negotiation processes that set up these early societies, there
remains controversy over which/what type of freedom rightly belongs to
the individual or to wider society. This controversy is ongoing and
always will be.

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I agree, but rarely have the civil liberties or rights been reclaimed
without a fight. There is a long standing tradition of this being carried
out by "The London Mob". I believe that incidents like the Poll Tax Riot are
an integral part of the democratic process, and so the stifling of this type
of pressure release valve leads eventually to far more dangerous expressions
of dissent. The abuse of anti-terrorist legislation to stifle and smother
protest is a self fulfilling prophesy. Because the result of infiltrating
and smothering mass movements results in the necessity for cell structured
agitation whose only avenue is to punch above its weight. The smothering of
the Northern Irish Civil Rights Movement is a case in point. So whilst you
can't expect the police to sit back and allow rioting, a sensible moderated
punch up like the Poll Tax Riot is something a society should accept, though
not encourage, as being a legitimate form of protest. Nobody was killed, no
molotov cocktails were thrown, no CS gas or rubber bullets were used, just a
very British gentlemanly punch up, and a healthy expression of the citizen
engaging, successfully, in the political process, and for that reason I'm
proud to have taken part. I came away a little battered and bruised, but
thats the price of freedom. Not to mention that it was intensely satisfying
to personally take part in hammering a nail into Thatcher's coffin.
--

Osric




THE BORDERS OF MY COUNTRY
RUN AROUND THE SOLES OF MY FEET


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