Re: belloc on islam....

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:12:14 +0100, "DVH" <dvh@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"abelard" <abelard3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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from ch.4 of 'the great heresies'....belloc...1936
http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT
"Both in the world of Hither Asia and in the Graeco-Roman world of
the Mediterranean, but especially in the latter, society had fallen,
much as our society has today, into a tangle wherein the bulk of men
were disappointed and angry and seeking for a solution to the whole
group of social strains. There was indebtedness everywhere; the power
of money and consequent usury. There was slavery everywhere. Society
reposed upon it, as ours reposes upon wage slavery today. There was
weariness and discontent with theological debate, which, for all its
intensity, had grown out of touch with the masses. There lay upon the
freemen, already tortured with debt, a heavy burden of imperial
taxation; and there was the irritant of existing central government
interfering with men's lives; there was the tyranny of the lawyers and
their charges."



probably socialists!!

Thanks for posting - there's lots of good stuff in there. e.g. "the spread
over Mesopotamia and Persia and the mountain land towards India, was not, as
in the case of the sudden successes in Syria and Egypt, due to the appeal of
simplicity, freedom from slavery and relief from debt. It was due to a
certain underlying historical character in the Near East which has always
influenced its society and continues to influence it today. That character
is a sort of natural uniformity. There has been inherent in it from times
earlier than any known historical record, a sort of instinct for obedience
to one religious head, which is also the civil head, and a general
similarity of social culture."

Nobody seems to write history like that any more - as if people have real
thoughts then act on those thoughts. Instead everything is portrayed as a
set of impersonal social mechanisms in action. The bloody marxists need
shooting for that.

marxists have so many qualifications for being shot...
but 'we mustn't make judgements'...

how did socialists ever get sane people to believe that!

regards...

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