Re: Notting Hill Carnival

carlos wrote:
On Aug 27, 6:02 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
White Spirit wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
White Spirit wrote:
Every year there is violence and trouble. I remember the number of
shooting and stabbing incidents last year - and the media were
praising the fact that the number of incident was down from previous
years!
If such violence occurred with regularity at a biker festival or a
mediaeval carnival, the authorities would waste no time in banning
it. But then, we're not the Target Demographic, who must be appeased
at all costs.
So how much crime do you expect over several days from half a million
Londoners?
Ideally, none. However, that is not the issue. Every year people
attend the carnival with the intention to cause trouble. If the same
were true of a festival or carnival that represents a different
demographic, such festival or carnival would not be allowed to go ahead.
I don't think that is true. In half a million people there are obviously
going to be a lot of criminals. IIRC there were some 200 arrests over 2
days. How many arrests a day in London's population of 6m? That's not
bad IMO given the alcohol factor.

General crimerate in England is around 1 in 10 per year
So amongst half a million people one would expect 50,000 crimes.
Over the course of 2 days this would equal about 270

In London it's higher, so the carnival is comparatively law abiding
compared to everyday London life.

That's a bit of a wishy washy answer. A large number of those arrested
were arrested as a preventitive measure, a large gang was prevented
doing battle with another gang.

Another sequence of arrests were made later before the trouble kicked
off, again as a preventitive measure.

Sounds like a normal day in S London, only without the preventive arrests.

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Dirk

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