Re: yet another loss for the socialist labour party....another small nail in the coffin of socialism...

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:50:56 +0200, abelard <abelard3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:36:37 +0100, Alang <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:23:24 +0200, abelard <abelard3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

don't be so daffy....as yet no suggestion has been made
of 'freezing them out of society' or 'denying them jobs'

That certainly happened. The most notorious examples being the MI5
vetting of anyone wanting to work in broadcasting and the assistance
given by state employees to the economic league

i'm far less concerned when a socialist loon is kept out of a
sensitive government post than i am when some bnp dope
is refused a job stacking shelves....

OTOH I am very concerned when anyone is kept out of work because of
their political beliefs. As long as they don't introduce them into the
work place they should be ignored. This was not the case with the
economic league or MI5. The latter involved itself in politics which
is constitutionally incorrect.


you're rationalising what you wish to believe

LOL!
You're ready to worship Blair Mk2

please don't get immature when you can't make a convincing
argument....
i expect better standards from you

You can't see the similarities between the tory party and Blair labour

very very little....they mostly have approximately the same number
of legs of course

Same authoritarian centralisation nanny knows best the people are
state property. I realise you don't actually live here so your
knowledge of UK life and politics is second hand distortion via the
Telegraph, Times, Express and Mail but even they have started coming
out against the growing police state in the UK now.


to claim the second is more than dubious

There were calls from tory mps

'tory mps' is not thatcher....
thatcher is complex but a rather narrow personality....
she's a fussy mother in law....she's also female....

Tory MPs were her backers

true...but do you have a relevant point?

She didn't deny them. If she thought she could have got away with it
the miners leaders would have been interned and work camps set up for
the unemployed

i see no evidence of that....there was no advantage or profit in
such actions...

I saw evidence of it. Roadblocks, Men and women arrested on suspicion
then bailed without trial, Colliery villages taken over by police and
cut off from the rest of the country. The only reason internment
didn't happen was because even the press of the day would have shied
away from it.

the miners were dealt with effectively....

A national resource was destroyed and whole areas of the country were
left destitute.

it is socialist who tend to incarcerate and kill those who deviate
from this week's alleged party line....

A point I agree with. Your Bitch Goddess was as much a socialist as
any other

in the mid 80s for 'work camps' to be
set up. The dismantling of ancient rights and liberties continued. The
foundations of the police state made firmer. See the 'Zircon affair'

you are still confusing statism with cult socialism...
locking up nuisances in times of strife is a common behaviour

There is no difference

'no difference' between what and what?

No difference between the state and socialism. You can't have one
without the other

of course there are differences....
the state can function just fine without socialism....
and

No it can't.
Socialism is taxation.

socialist loons can also hold their prayer meeting and pass
dopey resolutions in wooden huts without the state

there are always differences.....no two breaths are 'the same'
the concept of 'the same' is deeply irrational

That's correct. Some are more socialist than others just as some are
more authoritarian than others

that's not well defined enough to evoke and useful comment

Yes it is. You just don't want to think about it


as for an 'authoritarian'....again he's too dull to have much analysis
of any complex notion....
he is also blown by the wind...he is a weak character....

but all that is very much better than an arrogant fanatical fool like
the clown...
despite fanaticism being foolish....fools usually do much less real
damage than fanatics..

He's no fool.

of course he's a fool....

Fools do not get to run a country for over a decade.

yes they do....little men who shuffle paper for the party and wait
for the boss to die off....bit like bormann or stalin.....

Not in british politics


He's a scheming amoral selfish thug with no thought but his own power.

certainly....so are most crims....

He pandered to the press and encouraged the lies that kept him in
office.

the dull leftist scribblers in the fossil media bleat like a
herd of sheep..
they will obviously worship people who are in power or are as dopey
as themselves....

most 'reporters' are lazy minded...they will repeat what ever is
handed out to them to fill the space between adverts.....
tell them the clown is 'brilliant'...and they'll bleat it back
in unison....
talk to them and they'll be flattered....

idiots who are flattered tend to believe the flatterer is 'brilliant'
idiots who see 'phd' are usually in awe...without examining the
details, simply because they don't have the confidence to
check up...they don't have the confidence to believe they
could check for themselves....
brown is an obvious dullard....

it has been obvious for a decade since his dullard's face
and words first wasted public space

find one intelligent remark he has ever made....

If he could have declared himself king he would have done t
ina second

of course he would...he has no insight and plentiful hubris....
so would most 'reporters' and most posters here....

he doesn't have the fanatical belief system of the typical religious
maniac....
bliar is a social animal....a charming idiot.....

None so blind...

i cannot see what you don't indicate....

Your hero is Blair Mk2

no two people are the same....

it is amazing to watch you socialists now trying to put down cameron
by calling him bliar like....after first worshipping bliar for
10 years.

I recall you praising Blair in his first years in office.
And Brown too IIRC.


very little could reveal the intelligence of socialists with greater
clarity....

Indeed.
You socialists are easily led


cameron is vastly more intelligent...and sane...than bliar, let alone
the clown

Don't be silly. Cameron is just another wannabbee tabloid politician.
Like Blair or Brown, not stupid but willing to ride the power line of
political office for the gain it gives them.


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