Re: For those who missed it -another PC milestone
- From: FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:24:45 -0400
From Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@xxxxxxxxx>, in uk.politics.misc onSun, 29 Jun 2008 20:00:22 +0100 :
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
FACE wrote:
I asked a simple question and you could not back up your dumbassBecause it is so obvious.
claim that " So PCs just jumped in effective power by about a factor
of 50."
The processing power of the GPU is now available for general purpose
use as a vector processor delivering single and double precision
floating point operations. Which are the hardest to do. The offering
increases the computational power available on a PC by around 50x.
Above, do you mean "single and double precision" or "single or double
precision"?
I still think you made a massive overstatement. You are talking about
a discrete component.
See Amdahl's Law.
Calling it "obvious" is an exercise in arrogance.
OK - I'll assume you're not playing stupid to wind me up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point
Releasing the power in GPUs to the user, rather than limiting it to
graphics calculations, means that almost any simulation will run at what
was once supercomputer speeds. No doubt you read the Dr Dobbs article on
relative performance.
Almost all realworld simulations need the precision arithmetic of
floating point, which is the most complex instruction executed by a
general purpose CPU.
In fact, one researcher found his program running faster on his PC with
CUDA than it did on his university supercomputer. It has effectively
reduced the price of TFLOP computation from around $10K to a couple of
hundred.
You should also bear in mind that as little as 10 years ago that
performance would have been world class for supercomputers, and would
have cost millions.
Here's one from 2004
http://www.geek.com/dalco-to-build-2-tflop-supercomputer-to-model-race-cars/
India in 2003
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/01/1041196677610.html
In 1993 it would have been state-of-the-art no expense spared.
A mere 3 years ago:
http://news.taborcommunications.com/msgget.jsp?mid=406641&xsl=story.xsl
"
The Leading Source for Global News and Information Covering the
Ecosystem of High Productivity Computing / June 24, 2005
...
As predicted several years ago by the research team behind the TOP500
listing, only systems exceeding the 1 TFlop/s mark on the Linpack were
qualified to enter the list this time. The system in No. 500 spot
reached 1.166 TFlop/s... "
I started out with a simple question, not to wind you up.
Just a by the way point, I note that you say TFLOP, PFLOP, etc. You do
realize that the "S" is an integral part of the acronyms that introduces the
time element and not a pluralisation. Usage of it is almost a personal
choice though........
I hope you read up on Amdahl's Law.
FACE
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