Re: Great rant against the rich, high taxes and the government

On Mar 12, 11:42 pm, "Gaz" <gaz...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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Gaz wrote:
Old Boy wrote:
While the rest of us struggle on wages that have been below the rate
of inflation for 30 years, Labour has converted Britain into a
perverse offshore European tax haven where the really rich end
up paying less than one per cent of their real income to the
Exchequer, while the rest of us pay anything from 30-40 per cent.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=23032

Rubbish wages have massively outstripped inflation on all measures,
except
property, in the last thirty years.

Gaz

As everyone needs somewhere to live should property be taken out of
the equation?

Property is the only major exception of increases outstripping wages

Unfortunately it's the most important as for many of us it's our
biggest expenditure or potential biggest expenditure.
..

Do your stats include rental values or are all housing costs included?

Rents have not gone up at the rates of house prices...

Do your stats take into consideration devalued jobs and do they take
into consideration the cost of retraining in both time and money?

Most of us are a lot wealthier then we were thirty years ago.

I don't think anyone can quantify that with any meaning one way or
another taking everything into consideration
but I may be wrong.


If we look at
social security benefits which have been locked into inflation (rpi which
*does* include mortgage rents etc), such as the old age pension. While
thirty years ago, it wasn't really considered generous, it isn't as it is now,
seen as an insult and places the pension holder on the bread line (hence
pension credit etc).

Yes you might be right. Although for many years the government made
it as difficult as possible to claim benefits although hopefully that
has changed. People for instance are loath to be means tested,
particularly the elderly.



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