Re: Cameron's Unemployment Knowledge

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:32:52 +0100, Joe <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

abelard wrote:

meanwhile a massive *useful* public works programme is vital and
useful in the energy sector....
but will you get the blues off their backside to do it?
not without force imv....


Actually, and I realise this is quite a revolutionary thought, I think
*money* might work. Possibly the vast amount of taxation could be spent
on people doing useful work instead of:

looks like there's quite a lot in your post....some of which seems
under fully baked....
if you spend it on that lot...what do you propose you have removed
it from will then live off?

The ID database.
The NHS patient records database.

no probs

MPs. Why should MPs be paid more than the National average? Paying
peanuts might get you monkeys, but paying more than the National average
doesn't get you better people, just greedier ones. No skills or talents
at all are needed to represent the Commons,

dissent...the better ones are no fools....they may be mad or greedy...
but they're not usually fools....
well, some of them are none too bright but they tend to be 'sociable'

and it shows.
The NHS management, who seem to deliver little more than the medical
staff do anyway, with an administrative overhead to the medical staff at
least as high as if they were running the NHS themselves. The idea that
separate, specialist administrators would *reduce* the amount of time
that expensively-trained people waste on paperwork has been tested to
destruction.
Ditto police.
Ditto schools.
Quangos.
Anything called a Steering Committee.

ok....such things are in fact usually stuffed with unimaginative dopes

Princess Diana inquests. How many more do we need?

i'm for that....it is good to see them finally forced to do it in open
forum...
they've spent 10 years trying to stop that

Add you own entries to taste...

The amount of taxation collected in this country is enormous, beyond
visualisation by most people. A really, really radical thought: why not
spend it on getting useful things done, in addition to the small amount
that currently reaches what are called 'front line' staff, by people who
loathe all things military?

if i follow you...fine

Please don't say there's a skills shortage. What there is, is a shortage
of decent wages on offer for any job which achieves useful results, as
opposed to those jobs which involve only exercise of the jaws and vocal
chords.

i'm not convinced you understand money well.....
where are you suggesting this money comes from?
are you suggesting it is then paid to some alleged other productive
workers?....are you suggesting medics are underpaid?
are you suggesting there are nurses around the block just waiting to
be employed? or quality teachers? or that they are underpaid?

what exactly are you suggesting....
and please fill in the concrete steps....

regards....

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