Re: If they lied about the German 'camp gassings'...for soooo long....

On 31 Aug, 20:39, john....@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
The Nuremberg Tribunals, despite legitimate concerns regarding their
procedures and constituion, were not kangaroo courts. They were
attended and served over their duration by the best legal brains of
the day. They were under close public scruitiny and carefully
stenographed. The documents presented were, by their very nature,
destined to become archival material in perpetuity. They still exist
today for academics who were then unborn to further scuitinise.
Reputations most certainly were put on the line and for a very long
time too.

The evidence presented passed that test.

Now only since ~1970 we are expected to believe that at best the
Nurenberg Tribunals were incompetent even to the fundamental
admissibility of evidence. At worst of course they were complicit not
only seeking to procure a miscarriage of justice but a serious
distortion of history to boot. Beyond that this or these shortcomings
remained unobserved or unremarked for at least a generation when
through the fullness of time memories faded and principals began to
die off.

It's not good enough!

http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/ethnic_cleansing.htm

Seventeen German officers who confessed their participation in the
execution of Polish prisoners of war in Katyn were found quilty of
crime against humanity and hanged.

"When the Germans disclosed in 1943 the killing fields of Katyn to the
shocked world, American President Franklin Roosevelt declared it all
to be a Nazi lie and Hitler's plot. The Soviet mass murder in Katyn
was well-known to the British and American Intelligence services.
Information passed to the Soviet Union by Eduard Pfeiffer, homosexual
double agent and his British lover Maclean about a French plan of
sending the fifteen thousand Polish officers from the Soviet detention
camps to Syria - where Gen. S. Kopanski formed a new Polish Carpathian
Brigade, certainly influenced Stalin's decision on liquidation of the
intellectual elite of the Polish army defeated in 1939 by the German
and Soviet armies.
The German military investigators, who located the mass graves of
4,500 Polish victims of the Soviet policy of genocide, invited an
international independent commission and the Red Cross Organization
from Switzerland to Katyn. When they began to dig up the mass grave in
April 1943, a Soviet plane was observed hovering over the place.
Investigators from several neutral countries found undeniable evidence
of the Soviet war crimes. However, their report was totally ignored by
the Soviet, American and British prosecutors during the Nuremberg
Trial. Seventeen German officers who confessed their participation in
the execution of Polish prisoners of war in Katyn were found quilty of
crime against humanity and hanged. Until 1990, the Soviet dictators
and their communist stooges in Poland maintained that the crime in
Katyn had been committed by the Nazis. Those who denied it, like
Stanislava Kostus, my hgh school teacher of history in Poland in 1966,
were punished and dismissed from work. In October 1992, Russian
President Boris Yeltsin dispatched an envoy to Warsaw to hand over a
copy of Stalin's document decreeing in March 5, 1940, the supreme
punishment by firing squad of 14,736 Polish army officials, along with
another 10,685 Poles held by NKVD in the detention camps at Ostashkov
and Starobielsk."

When you read about Soviet atrocities in Eastern Europe, and consider
the widespread perception that communism was a Jewish ideology largely
run by and in the interests of Jews, it becomes more understandable
why a lot of people in eastern Europe began to feel it might be a good
idea if the Jews as a people could be got rid of altogether once and
for all. That is not to excuse, only to explain somewhat.

.

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