Re: Racial Profiling
- From: "TD" <tdefries@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:53:58 +0100
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TD wrote:
"Blue" <blue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If we can't use racial profiling for fear.
If we can't stop anti English hate marches for fear.
If we can't ban muslim hate groups for fear.
Then the English may as well rip the red from their flag.
How many more English people have to die under the
politically correct banner?
1. Islam isn't a race.
Well of course here I'm using the common vernacular.
To be sure we're all one race. Or at least Caucasian
incorporations so many colours. But to be truly precious
I'm not sure what 'Islam' is. Nor come to that, 'race'.
So they might be one and the same. Or at least they
may merge more often than not.
Islam is a religion.
2. It does not work. It does not work because if you concentrate
on one specific profile, terrorists will use people that do not fit that
profile.
However a delay for the terrorists gives us more time
and may save lives. When they change, then you adapt.
This is a NOW event. Not an ID scheme.
If you're searching for suspects who committed a specific crime, of course
it is ok to profile - many people use the one-armed bank robber example, in
that it's silly to say you're looking at people with two arms. There is no
point in looking at white men if it was a black female who stole a car.
That is a different matter from what we are talking about here.
3. Not all terrorists are Asian/Middle Eastern males: Richard Reid
and Germaine Lindsay, for example. Another example: in 1986, El Al
security
found a bomb in the luggage of a pregnant Irish woman attempting to
travel
from London to Tel Aviv. It was planted there, without her knowledge, by
her Palestinian boyfriend. That is why we need clever, not knee-jerk,
stops and searches.
Well the first to are at least none white.
I'm not sure by your description what the female is.
I don't know either.
But now you're talking about stopping all non-whites?
This guy looks white to me:
<http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/images/Nassar01.jpg>
Ginger hair, green eyes, light complexion, born in Syria.
A suspected member of Al Qaeda, wanted in connection with the Madrid train
bombings.
But he looks white, doesn't he?
While we may want to government to come up with clever
solutions they don't seem very lightly to going by their
past record.
4. Profiling is counterproductive in that it breeds resentment.
So how many English people should pay with their lives
for this thinly veiled 'resentment' threat. 1? 2? a thousand?
If it is truly so that certain people will become so
'resentful' of having the chance to save their fellow man
then I'm not sure I care too much what they think or feel.
<quote from the article you linked to>
And a spokeswoman for the Metropolitan Police said it was vital that
Britain"s anti-terrorist tactics did not become "predictable".
She said: "The problem is that this debate is taking place at the extremes "
profiling on racial grounds alone or stopping everyone in some sort of
misguided attempt to prove we are not being racist.
"Either approach, in isolation, is simply not sensible. Stop people merely
because they are of a certain race and we play into the terrorists" hands "
we become predictable and they change their tactics.
"Stop everyone, and again we play into their hands " they want to "terrorise
us into suspending our freedoms. We must ensure our tactics are not
predictable. This might suggest random searches mixed with targeted is the
right approach."
</quote>
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