Re: Smoking ban; some pubs didn't have time??

On 27 Mar, 14:52, "Maria" <i...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 27 Mar, 12:54, "Mel Rowing" <mel.row...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There is of course no choice for those who work on such premises.

Of course there is - they can chose to work there or elsewhere, as
presumably they did when they started work there.

Not as simple as that!

Employers these days have a duty of care in relation to health and
safety. Every reasonable precaution must be taken to ensure the
equipment they use is safe and that the air they breathe is free of
noxious substances. Where the latter is not possible then an effective
respirator or filter must be provided. If this is the case on the
factory floor then why should it be any different in a bar ?

I can remember my son coming back from his student job in the village
pub with his eyes bloodshot to the extent that he was obliged to bathe
them.

There is no choice in the village where the "smoking pub" is the only
pub.

I prefer to leave these things to market forces - surely if enough
people in the village pub are non-smokers, then they are the ones who
would ask for a smoke-free space, as opposed to smokers who would ask
for a smoke-free space to smoke in.
The problem is easily solved with a Snug bar too.
Thousands of housing estate pubs are closing every year due to lack of
clientele, leaving only the drink-soaked town centre pubs - I see
nobody crying about that.

Which leaves the non-smoker whose presence intrudes on nobody in a
position of Hobson's choice if the Licensees decision goes against
him. I've come across thee "smokers areas" before. They are invariably
in the least popular area of the pub and are distant from smokers
rather than isolated. Modern pubs unlike the old fashioned pub are
built or have been modified to an open plan. Even where seperate rooms
still exist they are connected by common bar space.


How many times have I received a meal in a pub just as
those having finished their's light up?

As far as I know, restaurants have been no-smoking areas for a long
long time.

I said in a pub! Often pubs have seperate eating areas rather than
restaurants. Small pubs might not even have that.

Why is it still at this late stage I still have to ask for the ash
tray to be removed (though only if its been used. Otherwise it makes a
perfect repository for the sliced tomato from the meal. I shall miss
that!)

It used to be the case that smoking was commonplace in cinemas and
theatres.

But that has also been a smoke-free area for a long long time.

How well I remember the clouds of smoke in the projector
light. Nobody would think of lighting up in a theatre or cinema these
days.

Most of them stand outside instead.

The prohibition introduced there years ago is now assumed and
accepted as it will be in all public places in the years to come.

I think that people can easily accept that places like cinemas and
restaurants where the space is shared. Even so, if someone started a
smokers cinema or restaurant, what would be the harm in that? Nobody
is forcing people to go there.

Even they tried the smoking area at first. I think it was non smokers
sat on the right of the cinema. Have you ever heard such nonesense. We
stil have the problem of those who work in cinemas.

Smoking is a declining minority pursuit these days.

And so?
Getting drunk is an increasing one - I would gladly visit a pub which
promises to prevent excessive-drunkeness, but sadly none of them do.
Getting drunk is very fashionable, like smoking used to be.

Any proposal to curb public drunkeness would enjoy my support!

That it is
unhealthy both to the smoker and those around is indisputable.

So?

Those
who wish to smoke publically should be required to do so in the
fullness of the open air (though the practice is being increasingly
prohibited in sports stadia) Those who wish to smoke indoors should be
required to do so in the privacy of private homes.

In your opinion.

And in my experience! I have suffered the inconsiderations of smokers
for long enough. In a few weeks time I will not have to. It's foul
practice doomed to join tobacco chewing, snuff taking and the spitoon
in the annals of social history. The sooner the better.


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