Re: lilley on immigration.....

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:02:14 GMT, Maria <frustated@xxxxxxxx>

typed:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:14:18 +0200, abelard <abelard3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

lilley is among the most thoughtful of tory mps and specialises in social
issues....the article is a useful summary....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=11O0VHYQ3OJXLQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2006/08/27/do2709.xml&s***=/opinion/2006/08/27/ixopinion.html
"Last week Labour's immigration chickens came home to roost. Since 1997 it
has repeated endlessly two claims: first, that, like Guinness,
"immigration is good for you", it enriches us economically and culturally;
and, second, anyone who casts doubt on the Government's arguments or
predictions is racist, alarmist and wrong."

particularly for maria who asked qs on this topic recently.....

lilley does not cover (and i did not last time around)...that quite apart
from the economic considerations, britain is of a finite size....
therefore every new body means less space per person....
that means greater crowding in the s.e. and probably increasing
spread of the over-crowding in the s.e. to other areas.....

lilley also somewhat misses a point i have posted on occasion...
that more workers means more builders of houses, consumers of
food (therefore more trade and shops) but also more pressures on
productive land....
this is going to become a very serious issue if the subsidies on food
spread to bio-fuels....and thus to increased world competition for
farm production....already strains are increasing....

so, immigration also means more oil imports or substitutes or lower
consumption per capita....
compare high productivity states like singapore and hong kong for
crowding and poverty effects....

Lilley seems eminently sensible - his problem is style. He comes
across so quiet and benign when he has some quite revolutionary ideas.
I like his idea of legalising cannabis (should be extended to all
street drugs), I hope he hasn't dropped it - there may still be hope.

increasingly i think we have a leader with brains....
and about time too...

at the w/e we had articles from cameron, lilley and portillo....
here's the one i didn't link previously...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-2330259,00.html

you asked a q. earlier...i am attempting to respond tangentially through
other freds....

regards....

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