Re: The Energumen Political Spectrum!

On 30 Apr 2006 10:17:57 -0700, "Energumen"
<energoumenos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


AlanG wrote:
On 30 Apr 2006 07:42:27 -0700, "Energumen"
<energoumenos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I find it mostly unreadable

Well I've now reproduced everything but the axis label and the title in
the thread. So care to comment on the substance of it?


QUADRANT 1 (top right):
Pro national autonomy and anti transnational bodies
Crime is the fault of the criminal, not social conditions - "hang em
and flog em"

Crime has many causes from the fault of the criminal to the fault of
the state or even social causes.

Anti-immigration - ethnic make-up of countries should be left as they
are
Anti-Islamism - tends to believe reform of Islamic countries is
difficult if not impossible
Pro free markets and anti central planning
Favourable view of America
Favourable view of Israel
No antisemitic tendancies

QUADRANT 2 (bottom right):
Pro national autonomy and anti transnational bodies

All those transnational bodies who set international standards so we
can all trade and interact or the bodies who set up international
standards like the ones against torture and human rights? Which type
would the antis be against?

Crime is the fault of the criminal, not social conditions - "hang em
and flog em"
Anti-immigration - ethnic make-up of countries should be left as they
are
Tendancies towards sympathy for Islamist terrorism - "America had it
coming"

There are many people who believe the attack on USofA was inevitable
who do not condone terrorism.

Anti free markets and pro central planning
Anti-American
Anti-Israel
Antisemitic tendancies - "Zionists control the White House"

QUADRANT 3 (bottom left):
The nation state will eventually whither away - nationalism causes wars
Crime is caused by social conditions - we must understand that if we
are to deal with it effectively

See other comment on multiple causes of crime
How do you define crime anyway? There are many victimless crimes. Does
someone eating a cannabis cake in their own home harm anyone?

Pro immigration - multicultural societies can and must work -
globalisation makes them inevitable
Tendancies towards sympathy for Islamist terrorism - "America had it
coming"
Anti free markets and pro central planning
Anti-American
Anti-Israel
Antisemitic tendancies - "Zionists control the White House"

QUADRANT 4 (top left):
The nation state will eventually whither away - nationalism causes wars
Crime is caused by social conditions - we must understand that if we
are to deal with it effectively
Pro immigration - multicultural societies can and must work -
globalisation makes them inevitable
Anti Islamism - while it may be difficult, Islamic societies will
inevitably reform

Islam has as many facets as christianity. One may be anti some
practitioners of Islam yet support others. Just as I am against the
religious fundies of the Bush/Blair genre but am quite happy to
support some of the local christian churches in their charitable
efforts

Pro free markets and anti central planning
Favourable view of America
Favourable view of Israel

One can have the opinion that Israel should never have existed and not
be anti semetic

No antisemitic tendancies


And of course you have left out the "we hate/love people of a
different skin colour" (pick your own colour)
.

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