Re: The REAL political spectrum in Britain today?


"Paul Hyett" <pah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In uk.politics.misc on Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Chris X
<Chris_x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote :

The relevant section :

A person on the extreme right of this axis is likely to agree with all
of the following statements:

1. Prisons are too soft on criminals
2. The UK should withdraw from the European Union.
3. Most immigrants are not beneficial to the UK.
4. Some crimes are so serious that the only proper punishment is the
death penalty.
5. It's more important to punish criminals than to rehabilitate them.
6. The government should not give any more aid to poor countries.

I happen to agree with all of the above, but not because of racial
issues.

I can only wholeheartedly agree with (6), and my answer to any of the
questions isn't influenced by "race", for Christ's sake.

Then it's just as well I *didn't* accuse you of that.

My opinions on the above

1. The prisons must, by definition, be too soft because criminals aren't
sufficiently discouraged from going back there.

2. The EU is a bureaucratic nightmare, not to mention an incipient
dictatorship, passing directives that the British electorate have no
democratic means of expressing their dissatisfaction with.

3. That is based on observation - they have much higher rates of
unemployment & crime than the native population, and many that *do* work
are here illegally, undercutting wage levels.

4. Ian Huntley for one, and every time I listen to the news, my blood
pressure must skyrocket - murders, rapes, child abusers, armed
robberies, PC madness...

5. ISTM that some people just *can't* be rehabilitated - those are the
ones who should suffer the worst prison regimes!

6. By all means have charities raise money for them, but I don't want to
be *forced* via taxation to support 3rd world dictators - we all know
whose pockets most charity money *really* ends up in.

Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinions.

That's probably the nicest thing you've ever said to me. :)

I just think it's
fundamentally flawed for the reason I stated to Hummingbird - it still
bases
itself on foundations which are no longer applicable - the mythic
left/right
axis.

How does that apply to my views on crime & punishment?
I would be just as happy to see a right-wing rapist hang, as a lefty.

Erm.... I'm referring to the subject of the thread title.


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