Re: If Islam is a religion of peace...



In message <qpkmu1pes1l17mi7cfnd0f4dg80v32i4h2@xxxxxxx>, James Hammerton <jameshammerton@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes
Unless there are a variety of 'islams' out there then one can only
assume that the nature of the beast evolves such individuals.

ISTM there are a variety of "Islams" out there.

Apparently predicated on just how much certain parties loathe 'the west'

But of course the question is how prevalent are the views of the jihadis amongst Muslims. Recent polls give some indication -- 6 or 7% consider suicide bombing in Britain to be justifiable. A sobering thought considering that means there's around 100,000 who think that, and more who sympathise.

And 37% apparently regard Britain's Jews as a legitimate target.

Houston we have a problem...

Indeed we do but it is more 'prudent' to imagine otherwise.

I truly believe that we have a situation in the west were those we refer to as 'jihadis' are simply less retrained in their 'faith'.

Others who we ridiculously reference as 'moderate muslims' simply perceive themselves as presiding in a hostile environment in which they do not as yet have the presence to exert their will.

Correct me if I am misguided but is there not some aspect of the 'koran' that deals specifically with such a situation?

Whilst I have heard the usual excuses for those in London there remains
the slightly larger issue of the remaining lunatics currently rioting
around the globe.

Are the British based 'moderates' adamant that none of these 'muslims'
speak for 'islam'??

I guess you'll have to ask them...

I think I shall let '..actions speak louder than words'

But here's another question: do those posing as representatives of Britain's Muslims, the Sacranies and Bunglawalas et al, really speak for most of Britain's Muslims? Or do they merely speak for their organisations?

Indeed are they akin to shepherds sniffing the wind and gauging potentials in preparation for edicts for their flocks.

Is the 'true islam' the one that resides comfortably within Hampstead
dinner parties where the 'infidel' guests refrain from alcohol and
consume halal products in deference to their 'esteemed guests'?

It's all so damn confusing is it not?

And yet all so simple -- the question is whether people wish to live peacefully in a liberal society doing so requires not being so thin-skinned as to riot over some fairly innocuous cartoons.

James

Quite *but* "As a muslim.............." therein lies the basic problem!

--
Aramis Gunton
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