Re: help please: what is the difference between an 'untruth' and a 'lie'?



On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:25:51 +0100, abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

>On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:21:27 +0000, hummingbird
><ZYLYDWINUSED@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> typed:
>>On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:37:34 +0100, abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...
>>
>>>On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:36:52 +0000, hummingbird
>>><ZYLYDWINUSED@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> typed:
>>>>On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:38:56 +0100, abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:19:57 -0000, "TD" <tdefries@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>Genuine question.
>>>>>
>>>>>this is damned complicated.....
>>>>>the nearest crude response is that a lie is a deliberate untruth and an
>>>>> untruth is just a stt that is false to reality....
>>>>>
>>>>>you can never actually prove deliberation in lying...
>>>>
>>>>You can prove it 'as near as damn it'. EG Mr Blair's claim that
>>>>Saddam could launch missiles at Britain within 45 minutes
>>>
>>>that wasn't even the claim made....
>>
>>Liar. Blair never specified *where* when he made the claim.
>
>good to see you admit your lie buzzy....

Rubbish as usual lardy. Pity you deviously evaded the point I made
that you were talking rot as usual. Think you got away with it eh?

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