Re: on prescott as class traitor...

On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:44:16 GMT, dave <dave@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:56:43 GMT, AlanG <ohovnwsirbpejv@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:19:39 +0100, abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote:
>>
>>When I was at school the local grammar had a dedicated science block
>>with 3 of each physics, chemistry and biology labs. Each place in each
>>lab had a full complement of kit for the pupils. eg. Balances,
>>microscopes etc. The chem labs had fume cupboards for experiments that
>>needed them.
>>
>>The local Sec mod had one general science lab and one microscope. A
>>balance for each bench not per pupil and no specialist chemistry kit
>>other than bunsens and test tubes.
>>
>>Out of a couple of thousand kids each year the grammar took 150. The
>>rest were written off.
>
>Really. How sad. I was "written off" and failed the 11 plus in the 60's. I
>subsequently failed most every other exam at school but got an O level in "Tech
>drawing" (Wow).

So you managed to get one of the few places in a local college of
further education

> Anyway, suddenly I realised I wasn't quite that stupid and did a
>day release course for 5 years which got me into university.

And you were in work with a sympathetic employer who let you take time
off to attend this course and possibly even paid you while you did it.
Possibly even paid for the course.

I managed to get a
>II/1 in electrical engineering and later an M.Sc. by dissertation in computer
>science.

Given the following paragraph and the assertion that 80 percent of the
pupils at sec mod were stupid without any serious attempt to back it
up I would guess you bribed someone.

>
>Basically, having gone this route I can safely say that about 80% of the people
>at sec mod were quote thick (academically, and in many other ways too). Want
>some examples? One lad ate 1" panel pins for a bet!

Magicians get paid for doing that

> Another threw .22 live
>rounds (that his pal had "aquired" from a fairground) onto the playground floor.
>I know this for sure because I was standing next to someone that was on the
>receiving end. Luckily the round hit him in the shoulder and he was wearing a
>heavy jacket. The result was he was thrown to the floor.

He was thrown to the floor by a .22 fairground round??
Have you the slightest idea of what you are talking about?

> I have MANY more
>examples. I could cite similar stuff from the academic side too.

Indeed.
I could add your post here to them too.
>
>
>I FULLY support selection by academic ability at age 11. Sorry, but I do.

Then you're an idiot or selfish

>One
>thing though - I would add the stringent requirement that there be twice yearly,
>exams that ACTIVELY enforce transfers for the pupils between the grammar and the
>sec. schools. So late developers can move up, and grammar school "luckies" get
>pushed down. This SIMPLE rule would make the school system work for EVERYONE.

Following different curriculums would make things worse for both sets
of pupils.
.

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