Re: Free advice for New LAb

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arealman wrote:



THINGS THAT WE MUST THINK ABOUT IN 2005 :
Cows, The Constitution.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government
can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the
stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington. And, they tracked
her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million
llegal  aliens wandering around our country.
Maybe we should give them all a cow.


The point being that they can verify the existance of the cow.
Verifying the numbers and whereabouts of people who by definition are
here without the authorities' knowledge is a far more taxing job.
Unless they're all psychic.


But the point about your point being that our government take infinitely more care of the whereabouts of cows than of the people that enter this country.

Well, if you really want everyone to be tagged and, quite literally, their every move tracked and minutely documented according to EU regulations, I'm sure Charles Clarke would be happy to oblige.


No, I just want the government to guard our borders against illegal entry with the same zeal they display for tobacco for instance. Also, it would be quite nice if a check was kept on the people on temporary visas to make sure that they actually leave. I am told that we have no idea at the present time.

Easier said than done. I mean, they do check the passports of everyone coming entering the country, whereas they don't check everyone for excess tobacco. And once someone's in any country on a temporary visa, it's pretty hard to work out how you'd keep track. The Government, I know, is talking about this, but it's a pretty large technical challenge given the number of people who pass through Heathrow or Gatwick every day, and that's before you start worrying about scanning the passports and visas through at Dover, even assuming you can get the technology right (which I'm always sceptical of when HMG is involved).


Technology ? It just took me ten seconds to think of a way of doing it. Staple the visa into the passport and collect it on their way out. If it's not been handed in when it's time limit runs out we know we have an illegal.



Fine. You can ascertain anyway whether someone's overstayed by inspecting their passport when they leave the country since at present the immigration officer stamps the relevant date in your passport.

What, by your system, will you achieve (other than a monstrous amount of filing -- Heathrow has over a million arrivals and departures a week) by establishing, when you get round to collating the data, that someone who left the country several days ago had overstayed his permission to remain?

I thought the worry was not so much about people who were leaving later than they should have done but about people who arrive and *don't* leave.

Steve

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