Re: more on appeasing the crocodile in the hope it will eat you last....
- From: abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:33:14 +0200
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:08:48 GMT, Maria <frustated@xxxxxxxx>
typed:
>On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:27:12 +0200, abelard <abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:50:25 +0100, Aramis Gunton
>><aramis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> typed:
>>
>>>In message <geuie1pvaeb3mnnc6nut58jn8o6hlbei4m@xxxxxxx>, abelard
>>><abelard2@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>>>either crush it while it remains weak..or stay in denial until you can
>>>> deny no longer and take on the crocodile full armed....
>>>
>>>What of the premise that fundamentalism will simply flourish (reveal
>>>itself) amongst more moderate (outnumbered) elements should a perception
>>>materialise that the belief system itself is under attack?
>>
>>this is a very strange thought!!
>>how does one believe that a belief system is 'under attack'?
>
>You are prepared to go to all lengths to protect our (alleged)
>democracy because you feel it under threat from socialists (or
>whatever). What do think that Muslims might do if feel that their
>ideology is under attack for the same reasons, i.e. that democracy
>conflicts with it? Do you think that they wil be more likely to
>moderate, or to harden in order to protect their ideology?
another interesting and rather obscure comment :-)
i'm a pragmatist....not a dogmatist....i want a working system that
leave people alone....
socialism is not such a system...neither is islam...
they are both highly intrusive systems of busybodying.....
i want franchise by examination...
and it won't be an examination in socialist or islamic dogmas!
it will be an examination in practical problem solving in the political
arena...
iterate please!
>>your head is doing sommat 'funny'.....whis is interesting to self.....
>>
>>people believe in belief systems....
>>when they believe in belief systems they tend to believe those
>> belief systems are impregnable and certain and even obvious
>> if only other (evil) people weren't so stupid or lacking other
>> necessary graces/insights....
>
>I think they tend to believe in those systems but because that system
>is their system of preference, they will instinctively try to preserve
>it and will be more wary of it being threatened.
these systems are conditioned in....they are not a matter of
pragmatics but matters of dogma....
from...
http://www.abelard.org/briefings/recruitment.php
Thus, you may remark upon the amazing co-incidence that almost every
person raised in Rome ends up a good catholic, nearly everyone raised in
soviet Moscow was a believing Marxist, while in Saudi Arabia it is
difficult to find any person who does not just know in their bones that
Islam is the true way.
you can teach the young to believe *anything* however ludicrous....
i want the young taught to think about the real world....
not learn a lot of mantras without relevance to the real world beyond
the nonsense conditioned into the last lot....
>All that is needed to understand this is empathy, surely. ?
i don't do empathy as i don't read minds....
empathy is a delusion....an arrogance....
>>do you perhaps mean their fellow believers are under attack?
>>belloc and ratzinger both seem to have expressed views that a smaller
>> more dedicated bunch of fellow idiots would be an advantage...
>> though quite how such a post-modern 'elitist' approach to 'go 4th and
>> convert all the heathens' fit/s together in their confused pates...
>>
>>>> the very same problem that faced you with adolf.....
>>>
>>>Hardly!
>>>
>>>The Nazis were not encamped throughout this nation awaiting activation.
>>
>>similar views were taken of mosley and his merry men....
>
>How many were in Moseley's party or supported it? As soon as war broke
>out, he was incarcerated at Her Majesty's Pleasure until after the
>war.
not entirely true....by a long chalk!
mosley wanted to fight for britain against germany....
here's a start for you
http://www.abelard.org/briefings/internment.htm
but it is the swamp in which aramis....and now you...are paddling....
that now seriously interests me :-)
regards....
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