Re: Regulating acupuncturists etc

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 29, 11:23 am, Sleepalot <sleepalo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not promoting anything but the reliance on reason and real
scientific research by real scientists rather than on the Ben Goldacre
column in the pages of the Guardian, or letting the pages of "quackwatch"
determine public policy.

That _Dr. _ Ben Goldacre, and Steven Barret M.D.

So, who the hell are you?

--
Sleepalot   aa #1385

Pardon me, "Dr." Barret, I've heard, failed his psychiatry board exam
and never practiced.

His CV
<http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae.html>

Professional Experience

* Chief, Psychiatric Service, Scott Air Force Base Hospital,
Illinois, 8/61-7/63
* Psychiatrist, San Francisco Juvenile Court, 7/63-8/67
* Psychiatrist, San Francisco Child Psychiatry Clinic, 7/63-1/66
* Private practice of psychiatry, 8/63-12/93
* Consultant, San Francisco Department of Welfare, 8/64-7/65
* Consultant, school nurses, San Francisco Public Health
Department, 8/65-12/65
* Consultant, Parks Job Corps Camp, 12/65-1/66
* Psychiatrist, Center For Special Problems, 2/66-8/67
* Consultant, San Francisco Adult Probation Department, 8/66-8/67
* Staff Psychiatrist, Allentown State Hospital, 9/67-7/77
* Consultant, Pa. Board of Probation and Parole (research
project), 11/67-2/69
* Consultant, Lehigh Valley Mental Health Association, 12/67-2/69
* Consultant, Lutheran Children's Home, 2/68-6/72
* Psychiatrist, Allentown Hospital Psychiatric Clinic, 4/68-6/90
* Consultant, Pastoral Institute of the Lehigh Valley, 11/68-1/71
* Consultant, Allentown Counseling Center for Alcoholism,
6/69-6/72
* Consultant, Lehigh University Centennial School, 1/70-3/77
* Psychiatrist, Muhlenberg Medical Center Psychiatric Clinic,
6/71-6/86
* Medical Director, Haven House (partial hospitalization program),
8/76-6/87
* Consultant, Allentown Police Department (evaluation of police
candidates), 8/80-3/85
* Medical Director, NewVitae Partial Hospitalization Program,
8/90-3/91

Did you notice " * Private practice of psychiatry, 8/63-12/93"?
Thirty years of private practice.

(watching the quackwatchers)

below quote is from:
http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html

"Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases
[snip]

And along-side that piece it says "The web site is compiled for the
sole purpose of informing community members of resources and
information pertaining to Lyme Borreliosis Disease and its
coinfections."

So we can immeadiately see that that web-site makes false claims.
Perhaps you should use a legal web site as a source for court rulings.

For more on "Barret's" career, see Ilnena Rose web site.

Someone who's been in litigation with Barret is not a reliable source.

I don't know if Dr. Ben Goldacre practices, I will assume so.
He was the recipient of a science writing prize in 2004 regarding his
article affirming the safety of MMR vaccines. The "science writing"
prize, it turns out, was sponsored by Glaxo SmithKline, an MMR
manufacturer.

Which bit of that is supposed to alarm me? He was also paid by The
Guardian to write the article!!!

Here are details, from "MMR and the doctors... taking us all for dummies"
by John Stone
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/stone11.html

[snip list of doctors - it's on the site]

Were THESE the type of sources upon which you rely for your
information?

Doctors of medicine, talking about health issues? Gosh! What ever
next?

Prof Lewis Wolpert. Wolpert, Nobel prize winner and author of a
vitriolic attack on Andrew Wakefield in the Evening Standard in
February 2004, was on the panel of judges for 2000 the Aventis prize
for scientific literature, while his book 'Malignant Sadness' was
short listed for the prize in 2001 despite the fact it was published
early in 1999 [10].

I can't keep up. Who is Andrew Wakefield?

When you've got a minute, from your busy schedule of dirt-digging
and smearing medical proffessionals, perhaps you'd care to tell us,
who the hell are you?


--
Sleepalot aa #1385

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