Re: On Determinism



<alex.j.k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Peter Ashby wrote:
<alex.j.k@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Tourette's Syndrome is interesting since it points up the best
explanation for retaining free will within determinism I know.
[...]
But what have they in fact
lost? not randomness, not sponataneity (they have too much of that).

By admiting that you've already conceded that there is in fact
randomness and spontaneity within the brain.

No I haven't, you think that I have because you can see no source for
spontaneity other than randomness. But that is a separate question.
which is of course why you have snipped and focussed on that and not the
issue at hand

I have not made any claims
about the desirability of any particular levels of spontaneity or
randomness - just that it exists in the brain. Whether one wants to
have lots of it, or just a little of it and control the rest is none of
my concern here.

So deal with it by focussing on the issues at hand instead of all these
side tracks. Or we may have to conclude that you are avoiding things
because you have no good answers.

Peter


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