Re: Some simple questions for the simplistic noncredible mind of DILV

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In article <31303030313034394898EA1142@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
David Wynne-Griffiths <davidwg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why on earth do you persist on lying about Crick? He never made that
quotation and Hoyle who did was an an astronomer not a biologist and
even he was only saying the odds were long and not that is was
impossible.

A chance of 1 in 10 to the power of 40,000 of an event occurring means
that it could be expected to happen once in 1.0E+40000 trials. Now
suppose we multiply the number of atoms in the earth, estimated at
8.87E+49, by the number of seconds the earth has been in existence,
estimated at 1.5E+17, we get 1.33E+67, which is ridiculously tiny
compared to the number of trials required.

Now, if we had an unbounded universe, the chance that such an event
could happen somewhere at some time is very good, but since we are
thinking in finite, earthly terms, we might as well put the possibility
out of our mind. In other words, had Hoyle's calculation been deemed
correct, then abiogenesis could not have happened on earth.



Forgive me, I'll repost my reply from another thread.......

Hoyle assumed that the 20 amino acids were present in the *soup*
(contrary
to the results of the Miller-Urey experiment, which yielded only seven of
the simplest amino acids). A simple bacterium is comprised of around 2,000
different functioning proteins. In turn, each protein consists of a chain
of
about 300 amino acids. There are 20 distinct amino acids, so the odds of
one
proteinated amino acid occurring in the correct sequence is one in 20. The
odds of 300 occurring in the correct sequence is one in 30020.(300^20)
Hoyle
realized that there can be some variation in the exact sequence, so the
odds
would be reduced to one in 1020. (10^20) But because there must be 2,000
different
functioning proteins, the odds of the spontaneous generation of a cell is
one in 10(20)(2,000) = 1040,000(10^40,000)


apologies once again...... formatting error


Mark



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