Re: A good laugh



In article <hLGdnbEgE-UunsXVnZ2dneKdnZynnZ2d@xxxxxx>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I would agree that the inability to distinguish myth from reality is a major
cause of religious funamentalism.

BUT: Is that really a modern development? Surely it is inherent in all the
religions of the 'Book'. I have never bene under the impression that
medieval xtians made this distinction. They had, for the most part, a
literal view of the bible, and, sure enough, that led them to a narrow
andnasty view of the world.

Armstrong is a former Catholic nun, and it seems to me that Catholics
have always had the tendency to interpret the 'difficult' parts of
Scripture in a non-literal manner. In particular, it did not take long
for John Henry Newman to point out that there was no need for Catholics
to see evolution as a stumbling block, as it was perfectly possible to
regard the Biblical creation stories as myth.

I believe Armstrong's development of the subject of mythos and logos is
far from adequate, given its pivotal role in her book, but she does make
one excellent point about the premodern view of history:

'In the premodern world, people had a different view of history. They
were less interested than we are in what actually happened, but more
concerned with the meaning of an event. Historical incidents were not
seen as unique occurrences, set in a far-off time, but were thought to
be external manifestations of constant, timeless realities. Hence
history would tend to repeat itself, because there was nothing new under
the sun. Historical narratives tried to bring out this eternal
dimension. Thus, we do not know what really occurred when the ancient
Israelites escaped from Egypt and passed through the Sea of Reeds. The
story has been deliberately written as a myth, and linked with other
stories about rites of passage, immersion in the deep, and gods
splitting a sea in two to create a new reality. Jews experience this
myth every year in the rituals of the Passover Seder, which brings this
strange story into their own lives and helps them to make it their own.
One could say that unless an historical event is mythologized in this
way, and liberated from the past in an inspiring cult, it cannot be
religious. To ask whether the Exodus from Egypt took place exactly as
recounted in the Bible or to demand historical and scientific evidence
to prove that it is factually true is to mistake the nature and purpose
of this story. it is to confuse mythos with logos.'
<http://surge.ods.org/idle_religion/mythoslogos.htm>

Alwyn
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