Re: Incest

X-No-Archive: yes

"Ian Smith" <news0807REMOVECAPS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CKOdnbFqnvrdjqDVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxx
IlBeBauck@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


REPLY: It deals with moral relativism (man deciding what is right
from wrong) ; and that is shared on a widespread basis in the Atheism
Faith. Therefore, it is on topic to this NG.


Probably best discussed on a christian newsgroup, Dave, as none of the
atheists here seem to have any idea what the atheism faith is.


Isn't it time we *nailed* this to the floor....?
This ridiculous assertion derives from taking the meaning of the word
'faith' and using it in comparison but out of context.
Therefore, faith, in the sense dilv uses for his beliefs -or those of other
religious devouts - is the faith in a "supernatural power or power that
controls human destiny".
Faith, in the sense that dilv uses for atheism, is the faith in a *cause*.
The cause being the *cause* of atheism. Note, not atheism itself, but the
cause of atheism.
We can show that the direct comparison between faith in a supernatural power
and faith in a *cause* is a false assertion by definition of the meaning of
the word in this context.
We can further demonstrate, I believe, that faith in a supernatural power is
an identifiable precision - albeit irrational - that concerns the existence
of somebody. We can show also, that (..the cause of) atheism is - albeit
rational - an abstract notion since it does not rely upon the existence of
somebody to survive. Indeed, the opposite is true. It exists BECAUSE there
is no supernatural power.
These differences show, briefly, the way that the word 'faith' when used as
a comparison makes absolutely no grammatical sense.
It's likening apples and pears as *fruit* alongside, say the acorn, the
'fruit of the oak tree........
Nuts are not apples and pears any more than 'faith' in god is not 'faith'
in the *cause* of atheism.
It's linguistic and lexographic obfuscation and is shown to be thus by
simple comprehension.


Mark
[I might add that I personally do not believe there IS a 'faith' in the
atheist cause...]



.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Faith and Skepticism
    ... > We know that reason reaches valid conclusions by simple testing. ... > processes like religious faith, the result does NOT depend on who is ... reductionist atheism, your brain consists of nothing more than randomly ... sloshing of dead chemicals," says the Christian. ...
    (soc.religion.christian)
  • Re: Unconditional love?
    ... I'm refering to have faith that there isn't one. ... group that simply doesn't believe that there is a god, ... We might as well call everything a religion then. ... That's a rather weak case for claiming that atheism is a religion. ...
    (alt.religion.christian)
  • Re: Why atheism isnt "religion"
    ... Faith is a response to evidence. ... The reason we have hope is because we KNOW God. ... It was about why atheism ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Why atheism isnt "religion"
    ... Faith is a response to evidence. ... The reason we have hope is because we KNOW God. ... It was about why atheism ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Oh piss off *spoilers*
    ... their beliefs remain pure beliefs. ... ashamed to have pure faith, so deny it to yourself and to others, trying ... I believe in spiritualist atheism, ... god exists, Dawkins his fellow so-called atheists would abandon their ...
    (rec.arts.drwho)