Re: Incest

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"Jim Hawkins" <jimhawkins@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On May 27, 2:02 am, "Jim Hawkins" <jimhawk...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Now that the ancient religious nonsense of blasphemy has, at
long last, been removed from the statute book, is it too much
to hope that another such absurdity, the 'offence' of
consensual adult incest, will be given the boot too ?

Jim Hawkins

REPLY: 1. Its not 'nonsense' to expect people to talk civily and
know whats right from wrong in society. In fact, there should be very
stiff penalties to enforce it because of the atheists tenet of Moral
Relativism being pervasive. 2. Two people agreeing on consentual sex
doesnt all of a sudden make it correct ; in fact, 2 wrongs make it
further wrong. And its worse still to be a predator of children.
How did you reach the dissent from morality that allowed you to make
such perverted posts ?


I'm sure that we'd all like to debate the issue, but it is clearly off
topic and nothing at all to do with this newsgroup.


Since when was religious dogma not a fit subject for discussion among
atheists ?

Is anyone following the confused and misunderstood allegations here...?
We probably all expect others to talk "civily" (sic) at all times but some
people do not. However, knowing wrong from right requires that we accept a
measuring device against which comparison can be made.
The law....? If it's not illegal it's *right* ? If it is
illegal...it's *wrong*...?
Dishonesty in emotion...? Not telling someone you are married to, for
example, that you *don't* love them....... is that right, or wrong...?
When your wife says to you "how do I look" having spent a couple of hours
getting ready to go out, and you don't really like the dress she's
earing - you say, "you look fantastic!". Right... or wrong..??
How do we measure morality...? Since considering .."stiff penalties" in
enforcing such transgression, requires a standard against which some action
is *right* or *wrong*.
Can morality EVER be absolute...? or, by definition, is morality always
relative to humans, society, culture......?
If the koran, for example, allows......no decrees, that a person (usually a
woman!) is killed because of adultery, are the religious bigots who carry
out such penalty *right* or *wrong*...?
If the Torah decrees that the penis of a young boy is mutilated without his
consent, are the perpetrators *right* or *wrong* in their actions...?
If two people chose freely to share their bodies together can that be
*wrong*......? Is not the sanctity of each persons own mind and body the
ultimate personal responsibility as a human being...?
Is the disgraceful and detestable notion of child abuse confined to only
those who are non believers...?? Do christians/muslims/jews, amongst others
ever carry out such hideous acts...? If so, what kind of morality are they
displaying...
Why would being an atheist be any less moralistic than a fundamental
christian...?
Where does the notion of absolute morality derive...? The bible? If so,
from where did it (..the bible) come...?
If it is mankind created, how can mankind decide such morality...? Is
morality.. cultural and evolutionary in absolute terms anyway...??
If the bible was god created...... why are there so many errors and
contradictions contained therein......??



Mark




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