Re: advice needed please



Rowland McDonnell wrote:
venom <rogers.mail@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi
Thanks for all your replies, I am pleased to get them.
I forgot to mention.. my GP says I need a "holiday" from the AD's as
over the past year I have been on all sorts,

After reading what's below: you do that, you've been drug abused by
your shrink.

When my shrink put me on
mirtazapine after a week he added Prozac, then stopped that and added
Lustral, later he stopped that and added citalopram. Nothing seemed
to do anything so he stopped all SSRI treatment and upped my
Mirtazapine to 45mg,

Jesus H Christ.

Okay: the shrink's a wanker (almost all are); your GP sounds pretty
decent (not that uncommon).

according to my shrink I have treatment resistant depression.

Hah. Let me tell you something that your shrink has kept from you.

Drugs alone are a bad choice for treating depression, and the fact
that you've not responded to drugs alone is no sign of anything but
that drugs alone are a bad treatment for depression.

The best treatments for depression are non-drug treatments, but
shrinks prefer to use drugs. They're like that. From my own
experience, I reckon that only about 1 in 20 mental health
professionals are not abusive to those relying on them. From what
I've seen, roughly 95% of mental health professionals are so
incompetent and so badly institutionalised that they do nothing but
harm to those they're supposed to help.

My wife agrees (she's met 'em with me) - this is not just a lone
loony's paranoia.

I think my GP wants to see how I get on on a very low dose as higher
doses knock me flying and I end up having to come of them.

Good idea. /Very/ good idea from my own experience - that way can
help. Don't expect the drugs to cure you: they won't. But keeping
the dose small enough to not screw you up but just big enough to do
something useful - yep, that can be helpful. I've got that approach
to work on me - for a bit... Don't expect miracles from the drugs -
I think that your only hope is drugs + the appropriate form of
psychotherapeutic intervention.

I trust my
GP he is brilliant, He had a hell of a row with my shrink

Good. Sounds like the right sort to help you.

when the
shrink tried putting me on Effexor, My GP took me straight back of it
the very next day and told me to NEVER take it again.

It's a crappy drug for everyone because once you're on it, withdrawal
is *HELL*.


You know FA about Effexor and I suspect the average GP knows not
much more. You don't help people if you prejudice people against a
drug based on crap, myth and misinformation. Who the *** cares what
works, just as long as it works.

There was hell
of a row over it LOL, but my GP won.

Naturally, because ultimately, he's the boss regarding your medical
care. He's in charge, not the shrink - the shrink can't overrule your
GP.

He doesn't want me on Effexor
because I had a heart attack and am on blood pressure medication and
he simply refused to take any risks.

Fair enough.

He's not over keen on me being on
Mirtazapine,

It makes most people fat and zonked out - it's another abusive drug if
you ask me.

I think thats why he has been happy for me to get on a
very low dose for a week, I suspect he's going to stop it all
together then. What he has planned for the future I have no idea, I
might give that St Johns Wort a go, anythings got to be better than
feeling "stoned" all your life.

Don't mix it with other antidepressants, mind you.

I shall discuss it with him when I go back.
and if there are no cardiac implications/contradictions with it,

How about you do that, but before you go, do some Web searching
yourself. There's a lot of good solid reliable `from medical trials'
type information about SJW out there.

I
can't see that he would mind. Thank's Rowland for that idea/advise
will let you know how I get on
Again, thank you all for your replies, I feel much better when I know
I can "talk" to someone about it, even though I don't know any of you
personally, I really appreciate your comments, support and advise

You are highly irresponsible and possibly dangerous in the way that you
promote sjw over proprietary meds, and particularly in the way that you
portray mental health professionals.

If someone was actually low enough to be taken in by your bull***, they
could end up self prescribing in such a way as to expose themselves to
very serious risk.

ffs Show some responsibility on support threads or there may be unfortunate
repercussions to your stupid trolling.

--
<a very exasperated> Munty



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