Re: OT - why does everyone

On 2007-07-24, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Real farmers treat their turnips better than the battery fowl are treated.

Well, yeah. I do get the idea that even those who run battery farms
would rather raise their birds in a respectful way, but don't know how
to make money without going the high-intensity route.

And let's face it, there are a lot of people who need feeding. There
was a reason high intensity farming practices got started: we needed
food, lots of it, quickly. With the pressure on, well, off they went.
And the high intensity methods are easy to apply in a fashion that
results in cheap production so you can undercut other production
methods, and `people' `always' look for a lower price, don't they?

It would be far better to feed the people what the chicken are fed (more
or less - I don't advocate saturating the whole population with sedatives
and growth hormones etc, but the grain and so on would be fine).

I'm not at all convinced by that. On these islands, meat seemed to be
one of the staple foods `way back when', and there's good reason to
think that people are not really designed to eat /lots/ of grain and
similar foods. Okay, N thousand years of agriculture means we're
adapting to that kind of diet, but the amount of gluten intolerance and
similar problems is a bit of an indicator to my mind.

I've read that research has indicated that people eating mainly wild deer
seem to be pretty healthy.

Throughout most of history, the staple diet of most people seems to have
been vegetables, leaves, and grains. Only the wealthy minority got much
meat at all - and were often rather malnourished as a result, apparently,
as they ate too little healthy vegetables. Fruit was a luxury for anyone.

It does make sense to raise grazing animals on land that can't grow crops
that humans can eat directly - such as the uplands of Britain that are
good for little but grass and such things. But it's madness to grow stuff
that humans could eat and then feed it to animals, and there's a lot of
that going on.

I think it'd be best to have more space and money spent on food
production and have a lower population density of people.

So: let's turn Mars into a planet fit for human habitation and get on
with it. Oh yeah, and the moon - although we'll never be able to give
it an atmosphere, I wouldn't have thought.

Pie in the sky, eh?

Until they realise that this lower priced chicken doesn't really taste
of anything much, has dreadful texture, and is probably from some
flightless, featherless mutant creature reared in a tiny dark cage and
pumped full of drugs for the whole of its short, sorry life - and
possibly diseased even with the drugs. It can't be good for people to
eat that sort of thing, and it's definitely bad for the karma to rear
the animals as they do.

Quite a lot of supermarket beef is lousy stuff - I get the idea that
they've worked out how to do something `high intensity' with cows now.
They always wandered around in fields when I was young. Big and scary
when you're under 10 and sharing the field with 'em.

Thanks to 'mad cow disease' tasty old beasts vanished from the market, but
I think they may be returning now. The other big change is that meat is
no longer properly hung; that costs money for the storage space and that
cuts profits so supermarkets promote 'fresh' and the customers don't know
that isn't a good thing for meat.

This customer does, along with his wife. We also know that `fresh beer'
as promoted by Budweiser is a Bad Thing. For sure you want the stuff to
be fresh - but that means `conditioned for the right length of time, not
stored for an excessive time beyond that, and drunk soon after being
exposed to oxygen'.

Ale and bitter can last for a long time in the bottle; a stash of
forgotten bottles that had been tucked away 100 years ago turned up
recently and was still very drinkable. (I can't find a reference to it
but I remember hearing it on the BBC news, so it could be true; I think it
was probably in Burton).

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