Re: OT - why does everyone

Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Real farmers treat their turnips better than the battery fowl are treated.

Well, yeah. I do get the idea that even those who run battery farms
would rather raise their birds in a respectful way, but don't know how
to make money without going the high-intensity route.

And let's face it, there are a lot of people who need feeding. There
was a reason high intensity farming practices got started: we needed
food, lots of it, quickly. With the pressure on, well, off they went.
And the high intensity methods are easy to apply in a fashion that
results in cheap production so you can undercut other production
methods, and `people' `always' look for a lower price, don't they?

It would be far better to feed the people what the chicken are fed (more
or less - I don't advocate saturating the whole population with sedatives
and growth hormones etc, but the grain and so on would be fine).

I'm not at all convinced by that. On these islands, meat seemed to be
one of the staple foods `way back when', and there's good reason to
think that people are not really designed to eat /lots/ of grain and
similar foods. Okay, N thousand years of agriculture means we're
adapting to that kind of diet, but the amount of gluten intolerance and
similar problems is a bit of an indicator to my mind.

I think it'd be best to have more space and money spent on food
production and have a lower population density of people.

So: let's turn Mars into a planet fit for human habitation and get on
with it. Oh yeah, and the moon - although we'll never be able to give
it an atmosphere, I wouldn't have thought.

Until they realise that this lower priced chicken doesn't really taste
of anything much, has dreadful texture, and is probably from some
flightless, featherless mutant creature reared in a tiny dark cage and
pumped full of drugs for the whole of its short, sorry life - and
possibly diseased even with the drugs. It can't be good for people to
eat that sort of thing, and it's definitely bad for the karma to rear
the animals as they do.

Quite a lot of supermarket beef is lousy stuff - I get the idea that
they've worked out how to do something `high intensity' with cows now.
They always wandered around in fields when I was young. Big and scary
when you're under 10 and sharing the field with 'em.

Thanks to 'mad cow disease' tasty old beasts vanished from the market, but
I think they may be returning now. The other big change is that meat is
no longer properly hung; that costs money for the storage space and that
cuts profits so supermarkets promote 'fresh' and the customers don't know
that isn't a good thing for meat.

This customer does, along with his wife. We also know that `fresh beer'
as promoted by Budweiser is a Bad Thing. For sure you want the stuff to
be fresh - but that means `conditioned for the right length of time, not
stored for an excessive time beyond that, and drunk soon after being
exposed to oxygen'.

I think there has also been some
'acceleration' of the growth of meat beasts for the supermarkets, although
in Europe we have't gone quite as far down that route as in the USA.

US meat production is disgusting, even more degrading to the animals
than what we've got, and generally to be avoided.

[snip]

but turkeys were certainly the thing to have at Christmas - just
replacing geese as the preferred nosh, although I don't know why -
goose is much nicer. Perhaps it was the influence of all those US
servicemen and their 'thanksgiving' feasts?

Either that, or turkeys work out better to rear in some fashion to do
with cost-effectiveness and `modern farming methods'.

Geese are very nasty to people they don't know, which makes turkeys look a
good idea to the farmers, I suppose.

I gather that geese have strong territorial ideas and are nasty even to
those they *do* know if you `tread on their toes' in that direction.

Geese make better guard-dogs than dogs do.

I can believe that. No getting round 'em with the traditional `pound of
steak' or whatnot.

But you wouldn't want one in
the house.

Nooo....

Rowland.


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