Re: Hello Again

nigel <useweb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:
[snip]

Monetary wealth and disposable income are not the same thing. And you know
very well my views on the Labour Party in all it's hideous forms!

I'm surprised you can distinguish it from the Conservative Party these
days.

Oh, it's easy: New Labour is fascist; the Tories are just Conservatives
again. They've mostly got over the Thatcherite insanity, mostly.

As far as I can determine, the only non-Blairite policy Cameron
has so far proposed is to reintroduce the legal torture of small furry
animals by hounds as a form of entertainment.

Bollocks: there's nothing about fox hunting that counts as torture, and
New Labour has done nothing to stop it. There is more fox hunting going
on since the ban on letting the dogs kill the fox the respectful way
with more people signed up to the hunts than there have been for ages,
in some areas at least.

What New Labour has done is demand that the fox be shot at the end of
the hunt rather than given the respectful natural death of being ripped
to shreds by the hounds at the instant the chase ends; for sure it's a
violent, bloody, messy process: but it's natural, and what I've seen
makes it look too fast for the fox to suffer at all. Keeping the beast
captive until it's shot - that's cruel, that is, even if it's only for a
short while. Horrible, foul - make my stomach churn in a way that
seeing a fox torn to shreds by dogs does not.

Chasing an animal down in a hunt is normal life for wild animals, and
they get killed in a timely and fast enough to be painless fashion if
the dogs do it. Shooting them as they do once they've been caught now
does nothing to reduce the stress of the chase - you're allowed to hunt
a fox with hounds still, and that continues. So I don't see any
problems: Cameron's talking about making fox hunting more respectful to
the foxes again, and removing the disrespect for life that Bliar's lot
decided to enforce on the country.

Foxs hunting is in any event a much more respectful way of treating
foxes than killing them with poison and traps, which is how they are
killed in non-fox hunting areas - where fox numbers are very low.

The stats I've seen show that fox hunting areas have more foxes in them
than other areas. This is because foxes are vermin, and if you've not
got payment for letting the hunt use your land, you've no incentive to
let the foxes live, and they don't.

So if you care about animal welfare and having wildlife in the
countryside, you'll be in favour of removing the requirement to shoot
the fox at the end of the hunt which is all New Labour has done `for'
foxes.

I suppose badger-baiting,
dog fights and *** fights will soon follow.

Not at all: those activities are simply cruel, involving captive animals
forced to perform unnatural acts.

And most relationships seem to be unequal - e.g. one party is a bit keener
on the other. If that were the case for me, I know I'd rather be the whore
than the punter.

I haven't read anything to convince me that you've experienced things
from both sides. Being a whore is just like any other job, except that
you're selling your body rather than your brain.

Not really: the average prostitute isn't a slave from what I've heard;
the average salaried person might as well be. Prostitutes are in some
ways more free than the rest of us.

Rowland.

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