Re: The baby boomers


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"Derek F" <lordpilrigNOX@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No one generation has the sole rights to being stroppy, for some
people ( but thankfully not all) its just an age thing :-)

No, its the not the age thing but the experience thing. We were brought
up with good manners, good education, good service, good dress sense
and respect for our elders. Now we get stroppy with people who just
don't give a F**k:-)

Codswallop. I would put my last penny on the miserable ones in every
generation saying things like that ( erroneously) since the dawn of
time.


Sure, my Granny thought that standards were dropping over fifty years ago
but like me she was not a Les Miserable. God knows what she would think
now. She left her rich womanising husband taking her five children with
her before WW1 and brought them up as normal well adjusted kids. My other
Granny was widowed around the same time and also brought up five kids on
her own.

As has happened in all generations throughout time .
Its the generalisation that I can't handle, the 'this country/generation'
did/do it all right - that one doesn't' Countries, generations are made up
of people. You get the good and the bad and the middling within any group
of people. Lumping them all together is never going to make any sense to
me.

The older generation in the fifties were saying that the younger
generation were out of control, had no discipline, no respect, their way
of dress, music, attitudes were all wrong. Its the way of things. No
doubt Adam and Eve bemoaned the way the next generation turned out.

I am going to be rubbish at being old, I like our young people. I think
they get a bad press, the minority that have and cause problems get all
the media attention. We don't hear/read about the majority who are nice
kids, work hard, have fun, do stuff for charity, are a source of love and
pride for their families.

Living in Canada you must acknowledge the tremendous difference in life
and attitudes between there and most other countries to here.

Must I? Living in a country is an entirely different thing to visiting
one. Visit a country and you get a taste of it, surface stuff, at a time
when you are relaxed and there to enjoy it. Living somewhere for a
sustained length of time is different, you get to see the place and the
people warts and all. Once the initial newness and excitement has died
down you see that though it may look different and sound different,
basicaly its people and they are the same mix no matter where you are.
There is a big section of the population here in Canada who would question
your belief that its a better way of life and standard of living here. The
poverty and social deprivation amongst some groups of the First Nations
beats even our worst sink estates into a cocked hat. There are many young
families who are struggling to get by, to bring up their families. A lot
of people in the UK enjoyed the series about the ice truckers, how much
was mentioned about the oil workers in the camps that the truckers serve?
Did they happen to mention the massive drug, alcohol, gambling problems
... along with the crime that goes hand in hand with that to fund and fuel
it? Once again, the majority of the oil workers do just that, they go and
they work, but there is a fair percentage whose lives go very badly wrong.

Canada ( the bit I have experience of anyway) is a great place, it has a
lot going for it, I really like life here, but there again I really like
life at home too.

Having lived in places the length and breadth of the UK , I have never
been burgled, never been threatened or attacked, never had any crime
committed against me. Same here in Canada.
I know that we have crime in the UK, its spread all over the tv and
newspapers everyday. Same here in Canada.
The majority of the folk I come into contact with at home ( of all ages)
are normal everyday people who do their best by their families , whether
they are one parent families or two parent ones. Same here in Canada.
No, I reckon that whether you are looking from across an ocean or across a
generation, though there are differences there are many more similarities.

--
Ticketty᧧
I'm quite well up on Canada, its people, history and its good and bad
points.
My Great Uncle emigrated there in 1912, came back to join a Scottish
regiment in 1914. He went back to Canada after the war, he was a master
carpenter who did some of the intricate work on the Otawa Parliament
building during its rebuilding after the fire.
He and his Scottish wife eventually settled in Edmonton where he built his
own house. He sadly died after falling off a ladder ten days short of his
100th birthday just as my mother was due to visit him. His daughter wrote a
history of his life in Canada and I have many distant relatives in Alberta.
One of my best friends went to Toronto in the 50's and is still there. He
went after finishing his painter and decorating apprenticeship in the 50's.
He had quite long spells out of work owing to the seasonal aspect of his
job. He then joined the Customs and Excise. His wife had years of ill health
that cost them a lot of money and restricted their lifestyle ambitions. He
has never been able to come back to the U.K. for a visit although his
younger sister who went out after he did enjoyed a much better standard of
living and comes over quite often.
My cousin who died about four years ago had a much better life there after
emigrating to Ontario in 1956 as she married a self made millionaire of
Scottish descent.
He wrote a privately published history of his family from their sufferings
in the Highland Clearances, their journey to Canada and the story of the
families initial struggles there and of the lifes of the next generations.
And a surprising story. Someone I worked with in the mid 60's gave up his
job as a foreman in an engineering company, sold his house and with his wife
and child went to Canada to work as a fitter after having a job interview in
Scotland and initial accommodation provided for them. Two weeks later they
were back at his own expense complaining that all the people he had to work
with were foreigners!..... Germans, Poles, Czechs, Italians.....
The universal problem of knife crime.
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/CanadaWorld/2009/06/17/9826411.html
Derek.


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