Re: XP reinstallation woes on Multiboot system

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:18:28 GMT, "pmj" <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


<snip>
Can you Post up some examples of what the STOP Error Message(s)
say?
In particular any References to any "Modules" or Files that it says.

There seems to be 3 bespoke bits to the Stop Error Messages.

Yep, they are all based on a standard sort of Layout/template,
containing the standard BSoD Text, with the relevant Module/Filename
& Error Code Number & Address Info varying.

At the top there is often but not always some words in capitals
which may be what you mean by Modules.

Nope, that's the actual Error Message (which equates to the
(Hexadecimal) Number of the Error.

Near the bottom there is always STOP with a code

Yep, that's the Number (in Hexadecimal), which equates to the Error
Message Text (if any) above it.

... plus 4 more bits of code in brackets(which I'll ignore for the mo).

Those will be the Stack Contents, I think, which will usually be
different each time & is only any use to a Programmer.

Then sometimes but not often just below the STOP code there is the
name of a file

That's what we (you) need to know!

... with an Address plus more numbers which I'll ignore also.

Yep, the actual Memory Address is only any use to a Programmer.

... Examples are as follows:
(1)PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA / STOP:0x00000050

That's a sort of "Catch-All" Error, actually - *loads* of things can
cause (or result in) that.

(2)BAD_POOL_CALLER / STOP:0x000000C2 (twice)

I dunno what that means, sorry.

(3)CDFS_FILE_SYSTEM / STOP:0x00000026

Ah!
So it's something to do with the CD File System Driver then?

(4) ditto as 3 but with 'cdfs.sys Address F76879D5' at bottom

Same there.

(5) No words/nofile just STOP:0x0000008E

(6)STOP:0x0000008E with 'setupdd.sys Address F74CD7D3'

Well, if you do a Web Search with any of those "STOP" Error Messages
(& also the Hexadecimal Error Code Number (& any File/Module Name
that is shown), you should find some Info about it (especially if you
Look on the support.microsoft.com (M$ Knowledgebase) Site).

The Error Number 0x0000008E corresponds to an Error:
"KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED"

There's a List somewhere (on the M$KB Site) of what actual Error Message
correponds to which Error Number, sorry I don't have the URL for that
to hand.

It *might* possibly, be a Memory (RAM) prob?
I just found several Articles that mention some of those STOP Errors,
when they occur during Setup

Have a look here...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315335

I am hoping that the knowledgeable ones in here will be able to help
me out of this vicious circle.

See above.
A lot of the time, it's knowing where (& how) to look up the Info
that you need, that matters.
:-)

It might also be an idea to Copy the whole of the i386 Folder to your
Hard Drive & Run the Setup from there? Rather than from the CD.
Look for the (Executable) File WinNT32.exe (in the i386 Folder)
& Run that.

<snip>
The only clue I have is that the problems seem to arise when the
installation process (in both methods) gets to the stage when it
needs to reboot the pc.

OK, so that's the clue we need to work on...

What Partitions do you have on the PC at the mo?

I'll reply to the next bit (about the Partitions, etc,) in another,
separate Reply.
But in the meantime, can you try Running Setup from a Folder on
the Hard Disk? - Having Copied all the Files across from the i386
Folder previously & see (& Post back with) what happens.

HTH
Here is the post back with what happens.There is some good news but
not a lot.
I copied the i386 folder from the XP CD to the HDD - all 5305 objects
343 MB.It seemed so important doing what pmj told me and all - I
copied it to a separate empty partition on the 2nd HDD ie H:\.It
copied ok.
I tried to run H:\i386\Winnt32.exe from DOS but it wouldn't.So I
cranked up W98SE ( the only OS I have for the mo) and ran it from the
Start/Run Cmd prompt having disconnected the Router and Printer
connections annd shut down ZA and AVG.
Well it came up with the Windows type XP installn screen annd set off
Preparing Installn/Copying Installn Files.
About halfway across the green progress bar 'Fatal Exception 0E
at0028:C02BE417 in VXD IFSMGR(04) + 00015C33'.An old friend from
W98SE.
So restart W98SE and run H:\i386\Winnt32.exe from the start/run/cmd
prompt again-this time without shutting down ZA/AVG.
This time Preparing Installn/Copying Installn Files completed without
BSOD and we got to see the Restarting Computer - Red Progress Bar.
For the avoidance of doubt this is the Good News.
Because when it resarts we get these options - Boot from CD drive -
press any key - no I'm sure we don't want that.There's nothing in
there.So it defaults to the multi boot options of which there are
currently three - (1) WindowsXP which for the time being doesn't
exist.(2)Windows(aka W98SE) (3) WindowsXP Setup to which it defaults
if you do nothing which I did(n't).
So now it starts upagain in XP setup but this time in the dos/text
version annnd from the very beginning - not from the first restart
where we had got to via H:\i386\winnt32.exe.
Anyway let it go/answer the (different) questions but you get to the
same place in the end - Setup is copying Installn Files - and it does
even though there is no XP CD in the CD drive.So where is it copying
them from we wonder.Somewhere on the HDD from the evidence of the HDD
activity LED.Perhaps from H:\i386 but how does it know I put them
there.I very much hope I will be enlightened.
So now how to finish with a whimper rather than a bang.The copying of
installn files creeps across the yellow progres band to 100% -
whereupon the screen goes black and up comes the BSOD.Reported as per
the format at the top.
No capitals - STOP: 0x0000008E setupdd.sys Address F74CD7D3.

I give up for one day.I hope you can make some sense of it.
Some progress has been made in that we have got it to the first
restart stage but it restarts to the wrong place possibly because of
all this multiboot options stuff.Should we get rid of it.
Where should it reboot to and how do we get it to reboot there.
I look forward as ever to all your thoughts.

Hawkeye
.

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