Re: Assistance required with Outlook Express. (long-ish)



"ray" <datasmog@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 18/02/2006 pmj wrote:
r@y Posted...

My experience with OE is limited to helping clients set up
accounts manually. Apart from that I have never used it.

You ought to try using it!?
:-)

Cos it's actually quite good for many ordinary type people,
who just want to Send & Receive eMails (& News Posts), without
too much Faffing around.

I can't believe you would recommend OE to *anybody* pmj!

heh.

Well, so as to clear up, possibly a little Confuzzlement...

I wasn't necessarily actually *recommending* that you (r@y) should
use OutLook Express, on a Day to Day basis as your main Mail/News
Application!!!
:-)

I was just saying that if/since you have customers who *do* use it
(& I'm sure you have many that do?), then it might be a good idea
to familiarise yourself with it & what it can do & how it does things?

I know that a lot of people don't like to be told whenever they have
any problem with anything, that they should be using some other Mail
Client/Web Browser/Operating System/ISP.

I recall the original Microsoft mail app that was foisted on Win3x
users. Mind you that was before Microsoft 'invented' the internet.
When they launched their 'Giant Leap Forward' in email applications,
yes, Outlook Express, mind I can't recall what they actually called
it back then,

MSIMN?
micro$oft Internet Mail & News?
Internal Code Name "Athena"

... but it's the same application,

Yep, but it's gone through several Revisions ove rthe Years & it now
uses a completely different (.DBX) Format for the Storage of the
Messages.

... everyone was already using something better.

Everyone?
:-)

.... Personally I was using Eudora and Agent for mail and news.
I wasn't about to take a backward step.

From what I see in the current OE, it hasn't evolved a great deal
from that original release.

No, but see above.

It's based on the original MSIMN thing, but it's been Revised a fair
bit in the way it actually works & what it can do & it's more (though
not completely) Standards Compliant than it used to be.

It has a lot of catching up to do. Even the free alternatives do
some things better.

Yes *Some* things.
:-)

And the way it handles Usenet posts and threading is frankly bizarre.

In some respects.
In others it is fairly intuitive & logical.

That is of course if you can actually get it to download any posts.
:-)

I (& many other people I know) have never had any probs in that
respect.

So long as you give it a Valid News Server Name (alon gwit hUser Name
& passWord Logon details, if necessary), it just goes & fetches whatever
you want (& tell) it to.
Headers of Posts only, or Headers & Bodies of Posts

I'm not saying it (Outlook Express) should be used by everybody!
& I'm not saying that it's better than other Newsreaders/Mail Clients

I'm just saying that because it comes with the Operating System that
most people already have on their PC, most people will just use it,
cos they don't want to Faff around Downloading & Installing a 3rd
Party Application.

So, for them (& the people who Support them such as you), a reasonable,
practical working Knowledge of it makes sense & is useful, if they/you
want to get the best out of it & spend the least amount of time sorting
eMail probs out..

--
pmj


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