Re: Techy Q?'s...

"David C" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:03:58 GMT,
> "pmj" <post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> David C Posted...
>>>
>>> I'm reading a lot of comments regarding Norton & MaCafee
>>> security & the "free" alternatives.
<snip>
>>> Currently my (4) pooters have Norton '05 Int. Sec. installed on
>>> two machines, one of them being the new laptop & the other two
>>> are using Blueyonder's PC Guard.
>>
>> I have no experience of that "Blueyonder PC Guard" thing.
>> I suspect that it is prolly a "ReBadged" offering of one of the
>> other Vendor's Security Suites?
>
> Maybe, perhaps you could take a look at their website sometime
> & see what you think it might be.

Yep - maybe, perhaps I will, sometime.
:-)

I just found this page about it on their Site...
http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=services_securitypcguard

But it doesn't say on there all that much about it, so we'll have
to look into it further.
Prolly their own Newsgroups have more Info about it?

Here's a URL of their FAQ Page for it, but there's *loads*
of Questions (& some rather woolly, vague & non-specific Answers!)
on there.

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=h_securitypcguard_faqs_home

<snip>
>>> The Laptop has Norton, 'cos it might be used elsewhere,
>>> therefore the Blueyonder product wouldn't work away from home
>>
>> Huh?
>> Why not?
>> I don't follow that.
>
> Blueyonder state that their portection package only work when you
> connect to the new via one of their broadband connections.

Where do they state that?

I don't see how that can be done?
Surely, if the Application is Running on a PC (Laptop or Desktop),
then it's Running.
& it really shouldn't matter what the actual Internet Connection is?

Yes, there may well be *some* parts of it that interact with stuff
on the Telewest/Blueyonder Servers & thus may only be available when
the PC is Connected up to the Internet using a TW/BY Connection, but
most pars of it should work fine.

> (They also seem to state that it can only be installed on one PC
> per household.
> Not true......)

Yep - since it's (almost certainly) a Re-Badging of an existing (3rd
Party) product, then whether or not it can be Installed (& work) on more
than one PC is likely to be dependent on whatever the origianl Supplier
of it decided.
& it's unlikely to include much in the way of (Mandatory) "Product
Activation", if it's a *Free* Product, surely?

& on that FAQ Page, it says this...

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=h_securitypcguard_faqs_installation#link4
<quote>
Can I install PCguard on all the computers in my home network?
You can install licensed versions of your PCguard on as many
computers as indicated in your account.
</quote>

> Since a laptop is by definition, portable, I thought it sensible
> for it to have it's "own" prtection package on board.

Yep.
& I'm pretty sure that anything like that TW/BY "PC Guard" thing
should also work on any PC.

Obviously, I'd like to be corrected on that, if I'm wrong.

& if this particular "PC Guard" thing that TW/BY supply *is* limited
to use only on one PC - see above - (& when the PC is Connected up
using a TW/BY Connection), then I would suggest that there are other,
better suited Utilities available that could be used.

<snip>
>>> PC Guard seems to jbex but it lacks ant anti-spam capability,
>>> which is a minor annoyance.
>>
>> Well, some people will say that trying to (or expecting to) have
>> everything all in one huge great "Suite" isn't the best way?
>> Anti Spam is completely different from Anti Virus.
>> & they are both different from a firewall.
>>
>> & none of that is the same as Anti SpyWare (or Trojan) stuff.
>> Or "Privacy" & Web Filtering/AdBlocking stuff.
>> Though there is *some* overlap, in *some* of the areas.
>
> OK. what Anti-Spam product should I use to run alongside PCGuard?

Whatever one yo ufind works OK for you & that you are happy using!
:-)

The way I (for example) deal with spam may not suit everybody.

I know many people use things like MailWasher or Magic Mail Monitor
to check the Mail on the Server, before they Fetch it using their normal
Mail Client (OutLook Express or whatever)

& also, you can get shot of a surprising amount of spam, just by
Setting up a few general Rules & Filters - even just in the Mail
Client itself.
& then what's left, you can very often easily sort out, just by
looking at who it's (supposedly) Addreessed to (& From) & the
Subject of it.

I still say that for many people, we (bein ghuman) can spot spam
just as efficiently (or more so) than any Utility program.
If it *looks* like it it may be anything that wasn't specifically
requested (from a known/recognised Sender) & addressed to the
Recipient, then (in many/most) cases it's spam.
& thus it gets Deleted without even being Opened.
& if it isn't, then a Rule can be Set up to allow it.

I think where a lot of people go wrong is by assuming that stuff
coming in is all legit?

If you take the opposite attitude - i.e. it's *not* legit, until you
are satisfied that it is OK, then you can get shot of a whole load
of stuff.

<snip>
>> & My Web Filtering & AdBlocking is done with sepaarte things
>> (from the Firewall & Anti spam things) as well.
>
> Ahhhhhh..., I see.

& I do that on the basis that eMail comes in to/using the *Mail*
Client (& thus doesn't need a *Web* (HTTP) Connection).

& stuff such as Adverts (& PopUps etc) on the *Web* (as opposed
to Mail) can be very effectively Filtered using things like
The Proxomitron (& a Firewall, if you are prepared to Set up Rules
for it) & a HOSTS File & a .PAC (Proxy Auto Configuration) File.

> Since spamming is not a very big issue, I'll keep the freebie
> PC Guard for now, & keep the other products "in reverve" as it were.

Sounds reasonable!
:-)

& as & when the spam *does* become "a big issue", then you can
soon handle that using any of the various ways mentioned?

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pmj


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