Re: Extra RAM Installation Blues Vol 2

"Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +" <flyingnun@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> pmj wrote:
> <snipped>
>> Funnily enough, I was going to Post up shortly a sort of
>> "General Info" type Post with a pointer to a (another, different)
>> very handy "System Information" type Utility!
>> :-)
>>
>> I know a lot of people often mention things like Aida32 (now
>> Everest) & Belarc Advisor, when ever anybody wants some more
>> Information about their System (over & above the stuff that
>> msinfo32 (the micro$oft System Information Utility) supplies...
>>
>> SiSoft Sandra is another one, with a lot of Info.
>>
>> & most of the Memory Manufacturers, such as Crucial also offer
>> various Motherboard & RAM Information Utilities.
>>
>> But CPU-Z is one that I haven't seem mentioned in here.
>> It's available (Free!) from:
>> http://cpuid.org/
>> http://cpuid.org/cpuz.php
>>
>> That shows you *exactly* what Processor is Installed, along with
>> a load of Information about the Motherboard, BIOS & also the *exact*
>> Type, of RAM - Make, Model etc & which (& how much) RAM is in each
>> Slot, along with various esoteric Info, such as the RAM Timings etc.
>>
> Just downloaded, installed and used it.

Was it the CPU-Z Utility?
Or the PC Wizard one, that you used?

<quote>
>> That Site also does a (Free), System Information Utility...
>> PC Wizard
>> http://cpuid.org/pcwizard.php
</quote>

> It does describe the memory better than the others I've tried
> and even gives the manufacturer.

Yep.
& the Memory Timings etc...

> <quote>
> A0 (RAS 0) : 512 (Single Bank)
> A1 : Empty
> A2 : Empty
> A3 : Empty
>
> Information SPD EEPROM (A0) :
> Manufacturer : Infineon
> Part Number : AED660UD00-500B98X
> Serial Number : 0B0200CE
> Type : DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz) - [DDR-400]
> Size : 512 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
> <unquote>

Was that the output from the PC Wizard thing then?
It looks like it to me.

If so, have a look at the various other Sections.
(See below)...

> It seems to suggest that there are 4 RAM sockets on the mobo,

Yep.

>> but as far as I can see there are only two, or are the rows
>> something within the memory stick itself?

I think that you will find that when it refers to "Size: 512 MB
(1 rows, 4 banks)", that is talking about the actual RAM Chips on
the RAM Memory Module itself & not the *Slots* on the Motherboard.

> Funnily enough it doesn't give the mobo manufacturer, but I know
> that is a Foxconn board:
>
> <quote>
> Product : SiS-741
> Version : Unspecified
> Serial Number : UY7245000590
> Support MP : Yes, 1 CPU(s)
> Version MPS : 1.4
>
> Chassis Information :
> Manufacturer : Unspecified
> Type : Desktop
> Version : Unspecified
> Serial Number : Unspecified
> Asset : Unspecified
> <unquote>

Again, that looks like the output from the PC Wizard thingy & not
from the CPU-Z Utility?

In the "Hardware" Section of the PC Wizard thingy (on the left),
when you Select "System Summary", what does it say in the Top Pane,
on the Right?

That lists...

Mainboard
Chipset
Processor
Physical memory
Video Card
Hard Disk
DVD (or CD) Rom Drive(s)
Monitor Type
Network Card
Operating System
DirectX

All (or most) of which should show the Manufacturer (or other
Identifier) as is stored in the actual Hardware ID Strings,
in their respective ROMs

Then, when you highlight each of those Sections (above), it shows
which Icon (on the Left) to Select, for some more detailed Info
for each Item.

When you Select the "Mainboard" Icon, the Top Pane (on the Right)
then shows the Manufacturer ID (as stored in the BIOS) & also the
Mainboard (Motherboard) Manufacturer, along with the BIOS & Chipset etc.

Highlighting any one of those Entries then shows you (in the
"Information" Tab in the Bottom Pane), yet more detailed Info about
each Item.

It looks to me like the Info "SPD EEPROM ()" you Posted was what
is shown for the "Physical Memory"?

There will be a listing for each of the Memory Slots that have
a RAM Memory Module in them - scroll down a bit & see if there
is more than one listed. (If you only have 512 MB RAM in total installed
in your Machine, then yes, that's all on one RAM Module
(in your particular Machine)

You can confirm that (apart from actually *looking* at it!), by also
Running the CPU-Z Utility...

That shows some more detailed (& more specific) Info about what's what.
But only about the Processor, Motherboard, BIOS & RAM - nothing about
all the various other bits of other Hardware in the Machine

Look on the "Mainboard" Tab - That should show the Manufacturer
(Foxconn in your case), as well as the Model Number of it & the
Chipset & BIOS

Then, on the "Memory" Tab, it shows the basic Info about it & the
Timing that is Set (in the BIOS) for it.

But now look on the "SPD" (Serial Presence Detect) Tab - That then
shows the specific Information for the actual RAM that is Installed
in each Slot on the Motherboard, which you can Select from the
DropDown List...

It shows not only the Manufacturer of the RAM, but also the Part
Number, along with the Serial Number & manufacturing Date.

It also lists the bandwidth (Speed) & the Memory Timings that the
RAM *Supports* (which may well be different from what is actually
Set in the BIOS)

If Hawkeye checks all those details (for both his RAM Modules)
I think he will see that they are different - which is prolly why
they don't work properly together, though they each work OK on
their own.

For his particular problem, it *may* possibly be that he can alter
some of the Timing Settings in the BIOS, so that they will work
together.

Not all BIOS Versions actually have the Options available to change
those Settings though - that depends on the particular BIOS
that is on the Motherboard.

All BIOS Manufacturers make the actual BIOS (& thus the Settings
that are available in it) customizable for/by each Motherboard
Manufacturer.

BTW - on the "About" Tab of the CPU-Z Utility, there are 2 more
useful Buttons...
:-)

[ Registers Dump (.txt) ]
&
[ HTML Report ]

The Text File gives a full Listing of what the various Tabs show
& the HTML one gives a brief summary of the Info.

All that he needs to know about the RAM & the Motherboard is in those
Files, so it would be worth Saving them out & looking through them.

HTH

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pmj


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