Re: Slipstreaming XP

"ned" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> pmj wrote:
>> "ned" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:3r808aFi8sd3U1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<snip>
>>> And, incidentally, I eventually got a fix for my prob that
>>> didn't need the HiTech solution.
>>
>> Yep - I gathered you made it all Fixted OK.
>> BTW - what did you do to make it Fixted?
>
> ........... HP eventually came up with a patch to make their
> oem software compatible with SP1. :-)

Ah great!!!

But that means that you lost out on the "opportunity" to do a nice
Install of your WinXP (complete with SP *2* Slipstreamed into it then?
:-)

> <'nuvver BIG snip>
>> :-)
>>> I am in the most fortuitous position of owning a Slipstreaming
>>> XP disc. 'Cost hard bucks from a vel lelyabl source but saved
>>> a lot of hassle.
>>
>> Yep - But making *your own* (which is basically how that one
>> was made) means that you can even include your very own Product
>> Key on it.
>>
>> Which means that you wouldn't have to Type in the Product Key
>> during the Installation.
>
> ............ Methinks the bovver of typing in the Product Key is
> slightly less onerous than the caper of preparing 'my own' disc.

Well, you *would * say that, wouldn't you!!!
:-)

Whereas I like to try out various ways of "Automating" things.

& yep - I know that very often I end up taking *longer* doing it in
(lots of different!) Automated way(s) than if I was to just Type it
in in the first place!!!
:-)

But my attitude is that while *I* may be happy to Play around with -
Errr... Sorry... I mean test & find out about - stuff like that, most
other people will want to do things the quick & easy way, so I can
(once I have found out about it) pass on the Info, this *Saving* people
time!
:-)

But anyway (or rather, for example) the "Product Key" Typing in is just
*one* of the several different things that you have Enter in, as part
of a windoze Installation (& then there's all the stuff you have to
Enter when you first Boot it up - in the OOBE (Out Of Box Experience)
"Welcome" Screen.
All of that stuff can be done for you, as part of the Install.

>>> ... You see, while I am capable of fixtding all that ails the
>>> planet (!), sadly, I have to allocate my resources where they
>>> will be most effective ............ so, preparing slipstreamed
>>> XP recovery CDs doesn't even appear on the prioritised 'To Do'
>>> list - currently topped by 'Fix wheelbarrow'.
>>> :-)
>>
>> Fair enough!
>>
>> But have you yet actually *tried* using that Install CD?
>
> .............. Nope.
>
>> Have you tried Booting off it?
>> Not actually *doing* an Install, but checking that it Boots off
>> it OK (& that you know how to Boot off it)
>
> ................Nope.
>
>> That only takes a few minutes to check (& maybe a little while
>> longer, finding out how to, if you find out when you try it that
>> you don't know how to)
>
> ................ Unless there is a screen shot accompanying the
> explanation for each step, that is an absolute certainty!

So what's going to happen, when you find that you *do* actually need
to do a (Re-Install)?

OK, yes, you could (if you wanted) do a complete "Factory Recovery"
type thing, using the "Image" that is stored, tucked away on the Hard
Disk somewhere, but (as we discussed last time this sort of thing was
mentioned), that would take you back "to square one" - thus losing
everything that you had on your Disk.

& leaving you with a *Pre* SP 1 Install!!!

Making a Bootable Install CD (with SP *2* Slipstreamed into it),
would mean that you could do it a lot quicker & without having to
Download (or get from CD) the SP2 stuff, *after* the Install.

>> These are genuine Qs
>
> OK. Here are genuine As. :-)
> What you are proposing is "insurance" 'in case' something goes wrong.

Yep, in a way, I s'pose I am?

> Are you expecting it to go wrong?

Yep.
It has already & it will again.

OK, not *all* probs would mean that the best (or even only) way is to
do a Full (Re)Install, but without the facility available to you, you
will always be wary of (or worried about) it?

>... What is the probability of it going wrong?

Quite likely.

Though yes, WinXp is actually more robust than w98 & WinMe was.

It can still sometimes 9depending on what the trouble is) need
a Re-Install.

> If I were to practice the procedure today and the PC fell over in
> say six months time, I would have forgotten something (for sure)
> and the whole process would have been a waste of time.

You might have forgotten *something*, but surely not all of it?

& when you are familar with something like that (even if only in
passing,
& not intimately, the way people like me are!), you can then usually
handle any minor "forgetting of stuff", cos the general principle has
already been done.

The intricaqte Details are likely to be different anyway, so (I feel)
that) it's better to worry about *them* & not the main Install part.

> Also, over a lifetime, the 'cost' of insurance is rarely recouped.

You're right there!!!
But that is *ordinary* type Insurance, isn't it?

The sort the Insurance Companies try & Flog you (or that the Law says
you have to have?

> Which is why many big firms bear their own insurance risks rather than
> buying in insurance. So, I will bear the risk and get the grass cut,
> instead of cutting a CD.

LOL!!!
OK
:-)

& will I be able to Help you get it sorted out then?
:-)

> I admire your enthusiasm, I admire your tehnical ability.
> And every so often I am lured into asking a casual question.

Yep - & I'm sorry if it seems like I pounce on them & answer with an
enthusiastic responsE!!!

Well, I dunno actually if I *am* "Sorry" in some senses of the word.

I thank you (& plenty of other people who have asked a "casual
question") for giving me the opportunity to find out about a lot of
stuff, without which I would have had no need 9or desire0 to find out
about.

A lot of what I have found out (for myself) about stuff, has been of
real, *direct* benefit to me, but has been interesting (in its own
right0 & also Helpful for others!
:-)

> But, I do not have your enthusiasm. I do not have your technical
> ability.

You can benefit from it (them?) though, can't you?

But anyway, like I say above, you don't *have* to take me up on any
of my suggestions (or offers)!

I enjoy finding out about the sort of stuff you ask about anyway!
:-)

> And of the many things I would like to do, becoming a aged junior
> 'techie' is not one of them.
> I've got more important things to occupy my life, - like identifying
> bugs and fixing wheelbarrows. :-))

OK!!!

I like Identifying "Bugs" as well!!!

Just a different *kind* of Bug!
:-)

& I don't *have* a wheelbarrow!
Well, not one of my very own, any way - I borrow one when I need it.

So, when I want to make something Brokted, so as to be able to make
it Fixted, such as a wheelbarrow, I can't!!! [*1]

So I make my PC Brokted & then make it Fixted, instead! [*2]
:-)

[*1]
If I *do* ever end up having made this (borrowed) wheelbarrow Brokted,
can I call on you for any useful Hints & Tips about how to make it
Fixted?
:-)

& can you give me any Hints & Suggestions about how to avoid making it
Brokted in the first place?
:-)

P'raps I should go & borrow the wheelbarrow & practice on it then?

Hey! - You've given me an idea!
:-)

[*2]
& of course, I do have to say that other people's Brokted PCs have
proved invaluable to me, in finding out how to make them Fixted!
:-)

--
pmj


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