Re: Just me? - Nope - & here's an explanation as to why (& how you can tell)
- From: "aa" <usenet.aa@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:17:56 +0100
In news:%lHPe.96668$G8.33151@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
pmj wrote:
> "aa" <usenet.aa@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3XhPe.95888$G8.93880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Or is NIN down at the moment?
>>
>> 502 Cannot connect to NNTP server 130.133.1.4 (130.133.1.4:119),
>> connect error 10061
>
> OK...
> That particular Error Code (which is a Winsock Error) gives
> a hint/clue as to the prob...
>
> If you look it up on one of the Winsock Error Code Lists, such as...
>
> Appendix C: Error Reference
> Detailed Error Descriptions
> http://sockets.com/err_lst1.htm
>
> (which it's a good idea to have stored in your Favorites, so you can
> easily look up the Errors)
>
> You can see that it means...
>
> <quote>
> WSAECONNREFUSED (10061) Connection refused.
>
> Berkeley description: No connection could be made because the
> target machine actively refused it. This usually results from trying
> to connect to a service that is inactive on the foreign host.
> </quote>
>
> & they have a bit of explanetion, along with some Hhints about what
> you can do about it...
>
> <quote>
> WinSock description: Same as Berkeley
>
> TCP/IP scenario: In TCP terms (datastream sockets), it means an
> attempt to connect (by sending a TCP SYN packet) caused the destination
> host to respond to the host by returning a reset (a TCP RST packet).
> If an application sends a UDP packet to a host/port that does not have
> a datagram socket "listening," the network system may respond by sending
> back an ICMP Port Unreachable packet
>
> User suggestions: Either you went to the wrong host, or the server
> application you're trying to contact isn't executing. Check the
> destination address you are using. If you used a hostname, did it
> resolve to the correct address? If the hostname resolution uses a local
> hosttable, it's possible you resolved to an old obsolete address. It's
> also possible that the local services file has an incorrect port number
> (although it's unlikely).
> </quote>
>
> So that, basically means that the prob isn't likely to be your end
> (unless you've changed the Settings & Configuration of your Newsreader,
> so it's trying to Connect to the wrong Server, or using the wrong Port).
>
> The fact that it (the Connection attempt) was "actively Refused", means
> that the Server Machine *is* up & Running & reachable over the Internet,
> but (for some reason or other) chose to Refuse the Connection.
>
> Usually, with things like that, it's best to just leave it & try again
> a bit later.
>
> & this next bit that you Posted (the *Full* & Exact Error Message that
> you got), also helps a lot in trying to suss out the prob!...
> Great!
> :-)
>
>> Configuration:
>> Account: news.individual.net
>> Server: news.individual.net
>
> That's the Correct Server Name (& from the first bit of the Error
> Message that you quoted above) we can see that it resolves to the
> Correct IP Address (130.133.1.4)
>
>> User name: xxxxxxx
>> Protocol: NNTP
>> Port: 119
>
> & that's the Correct Port Number for NNTP (Network News Transfer
> Protocol)
>
>> Secure(SSL): 0
>
> That should be "No", so "0" is also likely to mean "No" - so that's
> also right.
>
>> Error Number: 502
>
> NNTP Error Codes are always 3 digit Error Codes like that & the first
> Digit tells you wether it's a "hard" (Fatal) Error or a "Soft" Error
> A 5xx Error *is* a "Fatal" Error, so that means that you will always get
> the same Error (if you use the same Settings) until the prob is
> resolved.
>
>> Code: 800ccca0
>
> & that is OutLook Express's own Internal error Number for that Error,
> which you can Look up on the M$KB (microSoft Knowledge Base) Site...
>
> OLEXP: Outlook Express Error Codes
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=208814
>
> <quote>
> 0x800CCCA0 NNTP_RESPONSE_ERROR News server response error.
> </quote>
>
> LOL!!!
> Which doesn't actually Help all that much?
>
> *Except* (like many of those sort of apparently generic Error Messages)
> that it does confirm that the Server is Up & Running (& reachable) - but
> is responding with an Error - the actual, specific Error is shown in the
> other stuff, so that you (or whoever is trying to diagnose the prob) can
> suss it out.
>
> Basically, so long as you haven't changed anything your end, there isn't
> a lot you can do about it (cos the prob is their end) other than wait
> until they get it sorted.
>
> HTH
Thanks very much for the background. :-)
Happily I had the the trusty 'text.news.blueyonder.co.uk' server to fall
back on. Outage on this occasion was quite short, about 20 mins or so.
--
aa
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